RE: Case Study: Splintertalk Curation and My 10% Downvote Rubric

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You don't have to kill a mountain lion to make a meal for someone in need.
You don't have to build a train to stand up for a weaker person as soon as it fills up in the morning.
I could go on all day...

Wasting your energy on censorship by downvoting makes you a better person, I'm sure. Props to you.



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Huh?

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You've decided to go on a mission to regulate by using automated censorship via ur power, that undermines everything this platform is standing for in an ideologic and moral way.

You might wanna watch:

and then go over to rethink your actions while standing in front of a mirror.

Do not expect justice where might is right.
'Plato

You might piss off one peson at a time, but you treat whole groups of people unfair and that to be said, I muted you - and that will stay that way forever now. Goodbye.

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...that undermines everything this platform is standing for in an ideologic and moral way.

Did you miss the part of the platform where downvotes were baked into the system, specifically for when another stakeholder disagrees with the rewards that are allocated to a post, for whatever reason that stakeholder desires?

It’s called “subjective value” and it’s how content is ultimately ranked/rewarded on Steem. So no, downvoting doesn’t “undermine” anything at all. In and of itself, it’s neither an ideological nor a moral decision. It’s almost purely an economic one.

If you have any questions about these concepts and how they pertain to Steem, I would suggest reading the relevant sections of the Steem whitepaper.

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I understand the reasoning very well and I'm familiar with the concepts. On top of what you mentioned it also burns rewards, which was also one of the key intentions. Furthermore, downvotes are needed versus abuse & obviously ill intentions. So that means it is all good right, well not really.

To understand the real consequences, you can't just talk about “subjective value” and "concepts ... of the Steem whitepaper". Bring it to the streets and make a case and especially in the tribes,

it will come down to this:

Small and minor accounts get revenue burned, for the sake of the greater good.

and in best case:

The System will automatically regulate harmful postings and the overall user experience gets better.

You know YouTube and Facebook have mechanisms like that. Maybe call them and get some great advice, that can spare you a lot of time working on your censorship bots.


Now let me showcase you a very common scenario you're creating with these silly actions at the moment:

  • small account (early minnow at max)
  • a not English native, therefore spends good amounts of time creating content
  • buys STEEM via FIAT deposit for promotion/bid/advertising bot usage
  • and starts growing vvvvvvery slowly but at least steady

These are at least 90% of the people you will hit and 100% of the people that you actually hurt with it.

Well, guess what you just achieved against that person? You did punish, censor and scare him or her.

But Manni you foolish boy... how can you be so sure?
Good question! You did it to me and only you know to how many other people in this single comment section. Do you feel the power of the dark side? It's great!

With great power comes great responsibility.
Uncle Ben

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On top of what you mentioned it also burns rewards...

Downvotes do not burn anything.

Bring it to the streets and make a case...

There’s no need to make a case for downvoting. It’s one of two types of votes that can be cast in this system. Both serve the same purpose: to reach consensus on reward allocation based on the subjective value preferences of voters.

One person may upvote, another may downvote. Both are equally valid decisions on any given post. There’s no need for philosophizing and moralizing. You can vote up or down on any content you see, for whatever reason you want.

You know YouTube and Facebook have mechanisms like that.

This isn’t YouTube or Facebook. It’s Steem. There are rewards being distributed by stakeholders from an inflation pool. There are rules for how that works. You should learn and understand the rules if you want to willingly participate in the system. And you should especially learn and understand them before making arguments that explicitly contradict the code and the rationale for the code.

As to the rest of your comment - I have no idea what you’re carrying on about.

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So Downvotes don't burn pending rewards? Which had to be created by wasting mana of a stakeholder?

As I see it, downvotes do that - and also have a negative impact on the reputation level.

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This isn’t YouTube or Facebook

.. and I never said that

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You can vote up or down on any content you see, for whatever reason you want.

Anyone can do that, but not everyone has enough power to use downvotes efficiently.

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As to the rest of your comment - I have no idea what you’re carrying on about.

With a reputation of (74) and 50k Steem/SP combined, you don't care to get a little downvote here and there. Who cares about small fish in the seas, right? HAHA right?

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With huge Power, you can silence any small account here and all it takes is just your downvotes. I mean you do disagree with me, go ahead and downvote all my content so that I'm screwed, easy.

You do that for some short time, also add your bots to it, my rep will drop very low and none can even read my comments anymore very soon. That would be fun.

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