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Howdy everyone, it's been a busy couple of months since I began my position as the DAO project manager. That's okay though, when you're passionate about what you're doing, it feels much less like 'work.' I like to stay busy and feel like there's still a lot to do, so that's a good thing I suppose. Speak of having a lot to do...

One thing that has come up quite a few times is that people think we need an overall vision or gameplan for the DAO. It's easy enough for me to tell you guys what I see that needs doing and to try to encourage us all to work together and find solutions for those issues, but I'm often a bit more reserved in that department as I feel like that's something the DAO as a whole has to figure out. Hopefully you'll find the title of this post quite ironic and humorous like I do.

All of that said, I'm going to share what I feel like are our current big three priorities that we should be working on in the near term (which I'm already drafting proposals for) and I'd suggest you guys share anything that you feel may be higher priority in the comments. With the new community proposal guidelines in place, we'll likely see more "temperature check" polls that don't go to a full vote and that can be a good thing. The goal is to get more involvement from the community and to create the best proposals possible. We all want this game, the DAO and our community to succeed!

Tournaments

The first big issue that I feel we have to address is tournaments. Opinions are all over the place on this topic. The core issue that I see with tournaments at this point is that we have never had a stake-weighted decision on how to structure the prizes, what formats we want, or even the entrance requirements.

After two months of discussions on the topic, myself and several members of the community that have been very involved in finding solutions have ultimately decided the best path forward is to run multiple proposals and give everyone several options to choose from and if no options receive enough support to pass a vote, then we will have to examine the feedback and go back to the drawing board and do better.

The good news here is that while it is a lot of work to redo our tournament structures, they will finally be ratified by consensus when we're done. The DAO should be taking charge of how its inflation is apportioned and ensuring that it is being used to incentivize growth for both the game and the DAO. Which brings us to the next big topic...

Liquidity Pools

I want to preface what I'm about to say here with the caveat that I personally feel like the 'liquidity mining' protocol that our project and many other defi projects have used over the last few years is fundamentally flawed and has proven over time that it is a failed concept. After speaking with many of the large liquidity providers and pitching ideas about having the DAO taking over liquidity pools, I feel like the majority of them understand why we need to make some smart long-term moves with our LPs even if they won't all support efforts to change things.

I've spent a lot of time researching our LP incentives and looking for better ways to approach the entire concept of liquidity pools. It just happens to be a serendipitous event that @blockchainff turned me on to this SushiSwap Bond promo which aligns very closely with a much needed shift in the defi industry.

For those that want some further understanding of why I think the concept of 'liquidity mining' is a failure, to put it simply: we're spending a massive amount of inflation to borrow liquidity to prop up pools, some of which don't do enough volume to warrant the inflation, and that borrowed liquidity is going to go away when we stop paying for it.

What does this mean? Well currently it means we're printing about $150,000 a month of inflation to borrow liquidity that we don't even need to be borrowing. The DAO holds more than enough tokens to take over every LP we have completely with no overall liquidity loss. Instead of printing $150,000 a month (at 3 cent sps mind you, this amount increases with token price), we could use idle assets the DAO already owns to turn that expense into revenue for the DAO or similar to the bond concept, we can outright sell the inflation ourselves and own the liquidity so that we spend the same but aren't left with nothing in the end.

I am still working to build out a comprehensive reform plan for our LPs. Obviously anything I suggest will still have to be voted on and I expect there will likely be some resistance from key players that are enjoying the benefits of the flawed system, but that doesn't mean we can't try to do better. Whether we want to continue offering bonds or reroute that inflation to future rewards or exchange listings, those are all things to think about when working towards LP reform. Which brings us to our last topic for today...

Exchanges

Well there's definitely a lot of opinions on this topic and we do not have much if any consensus at this point. That's okay though as there are two more pressing issues and we ultimately don't have to do anything with this one. That said, I am asked damn near every day when we're going to get a big listing. I'm going to lay out exactly what has to happen for us to make moves in that direction. If the DAO wants to make these moves, I am capable of handling it. If not, we won't.

Currently I am still searching for a quality "lending based" market maker. (I discussed the different types of market makers in this post.) We hired FlowDesk to help us retain our Crypto.com listing for the time being, but we went with the bare minimum cheapest option which is not going to help us expand into new exchanges at all. I understand people don't want to "spend money" on market making, so if I find a quality lending based MM I will be bringing it to everyone's attention.

If we want a shot at a tier 1 exchange, we need market making support on every exchange we are listed on and any new ones we gain moving forward. We have to have higher volume for bigger exchanges and that cannot happen without higher liquidity on targeted markets. There's no reason for people to overpay for our tokens on an illiquid exchange when they could just buy pretty much any other token and swap it for SPS outside of a centralized exchange and most retail buyers are on Coinbase and Binance anyway.

If we get our liquidity and subsequently our volume up, we have a much better shot at negotiating bigger exchange listings that aren't going to take up to 20% of our DAO holdings to buy a listing. I understand many people don't want to spend money when SPS is low, I also understand many people want 'wen binance?' to be 'now binance!' and feel like we're intentionally castrating our projects growth. I can't tell you what we should do as far as if pursuing centralized exchanges is right or wrong at this point. All I can do is tell you what we need to do if we want to do the thing.

Summary

There's a lot of work ahead of us and I know that these are only a handful of issues that I feel should be prioritized based on my own personal thoughts as well as feedback gathered over the last couple of years both as a Splinterlands employee and as a member of this community. Hopefully we can all work together to solve these problems and many more.

I want to ask that everyone please try to keep things civil as we move into these discussions. There are some very contentious topics and I don't think we're going to get very far if we can't all try to compromise a bit and interact respectfully with each other. Thanks for your time and the opportunity to serve the DAO!



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Having a good place to discuss all of these issues and learn what is going on is key and what we need more than anything. We need a improvement of the hive and discord communication system as neither allow for separate yet organized discussions as a forum does and wiki pages are needed to gather all the info. Having to run a separate app to communicate about hive is difficult as discord takes a lot of resources and its mostly just a very busy chat room and difficult to have conversations and find information. With Hive being a social media blockchain its a great opportunity to create something much better for communications with threaded forums and wiki pages so that its easy to ask and answer questions and wiki pages to learn from.

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If you have the skillset and want to build out something on HIVE that would be cool. I've ran some ideas by big stakeholders and gotten the impression that there isn't a lot of support for funding the development of a HIVE based solution. Personally I'd like to see us have a SPS DAO website with decentralized polling and forums integrated into it, but yea that will cost money unless someone from the community with the skillset wants to step up and help out.

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Splinterlands had a forum several years ago. As it is here on hive there is not a good way to ask and answer individual questions. Similar to the comment in the post you link above and replied to ,This is a problem for all of hive as it can take a long time to learn simple things that could be available to read and learn with a forum and wiki system.

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Now binance? Why not,The DAO has been approved and requires payment of fees. All need to do is execute it,most retail buyers are on Coinbase and Binance(including me), It is difficult to introduce people who purely play games to the blockchain, Why not use the power of Coinbase and Binance to bring many retail buyers to Splinterlands, They will discover the beauty of Splinterlands and stay and spread the word, At a tier 1 exchange almost everyone will recognize Splinterlands will know that Splinterlands is the best web3 game, The purpose is not to hype but to increase publicity,First-class products should be traded in first-class places,This is the best way for Splinterlands.

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We need a gameplan that has community buy in and DAO resources behind it. I've suggested how to approach this many times and have the connections to get us on exchanges if we want to pursue them. That said, it doesn't seem like stakeholders want to pay for exchange listings at this time.

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So get the tournament (s) proposals out. I think we made a lot of progress there, and hate to lose momentum.

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I feel that some of these topics will need an "explain it to me like I'm a 5yr old" approach, maybe they should all start with that intro, as often I am confused by basic terminology and concepts that are being discussed in a, sometimes, "jargonesqe" manner.

Take for example the LP question, I have read your posts and others on the topic, delved into the comments and I feel some basic concepts and ideas are eluding me. For example, the use of the term "Liquidity mining" may be packed with meaning for some, for others, myself included , it goes over my head a tad. I use LP's on BeeSwap and in-game, and I understand the general idea, but the benefits of the alternatives proposed have not sunk in to the extent that I feel I can mentally juggle the concepts and evaluate the pros and cons.

As these proposals and votes affect all stakeholders, I feel it would go a long way to bring more into the conversation in a meaningful way if the aforementioned approach prefixed these proposals.

I appreciate the work you have already done to explain things. Your piece(s) on exchanges is a very good example, you illuminated the topic and laid the real meat of the issue to bear, thank you for that.

Tournaments will be an emotional topic, and an important one, consensus needs truly informed opinion, not tribal or reflex voting.

Please don't take this as any form of criticism, it is just a plea from someone who wants to make good decisions based on proper understanding. I appreciate your educational efforts to date and applaud your neutral matter-of-fact approach

I always view myself as "Mr Average", not super smart but not dumb either. I will put some effort into background reading and self-education, if I feel the topic is important/interesting, but I won't pour through reams of background, my knowledge is built up piecemeal over time, so there will be gaps

The DAO is the stakeholders, we all need to raise our respective bars and make wise choices

P.S @acidyo post is interesting and possibly relevant in the consensus forming process

https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@peak.open/open-polls-protocol-initial-version

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That's a good suggestion. I've actually been thinking about laying out a few potential "gameplan" type options for how to approach LPs and LP inflation going forward. I think we have a few viable options that could work to build value for the DAO. I'll do my best to break things down a bit further in that post.

For now I'll try to ELI5 what "liquidity mining" means for you here:

If you look at the way our LP inflation (rewards) are currently working, we essentially pay people to stake some funds into an LP and "mine" the rewards by staking them there. It's a bit more complicated than this but the ELI5 would be to think of our current approach as using LPs as a proof of stake mining system. People stake tokens in, get our tokens as a reward.

What's really bad about this approach is that it has no long-term benefit for the DAO. It's nice while it works, but after the inflation runs out we have to either figure out how to keep paying people to keep liquidity there, or figure out how to provide some liquidity ourselves. My suggestion is we skip the next 3 years of printing SPS to ultimately own nothing for it and instead adjust our approach to LPs in a way that benefits the DAO.

For example we're sitting on millions of dollars worth of tokens. We literally have more idle liquidity sitting in our DAO than all of our LPs combined. Instead of printing roughly 100k USD worth of SPS a month to rent that liquidity from other people, we could just provide it ourselves. That cuts the spending and also allows us to take what is currently an expense and turn it into potential revenue generation as the DAO would start earning the trading fees from the pools as well.

The goal is to make the DAO more sustainable long-term. Cut some of the needless spending and start looking for ways that the DAO can ultimately generate some funds. This will allow the DAO to do things like fund future rewards once the white-paper inflation is finished or hire employees (like me :D ) or for whatever else the DAO decides it wants to spend money on. Hopefully this makes it a bit easier to understand.

I think of it like we're currently carrying some extremely high interest credit card debt (some over 40% APR) while we're sitting on more than enough money to pay off all of that debt and paying it off would actually create perpetual revenue sources.

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Thanks, that was indeed very useful, and it did help crystallise and clarify my thinking on the matter.

When you put it like that, it is actually a no-brainer. no?

It seems crazy that we are not doing this now

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