RE: Azircon You're a Shame! Don't Vote Just Reblog If Hive Is Yours
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Hi to you,
I followed the comments.
Would you say that the experience here with actors who see downvotes as the means of choice teaches you that there are people who see rebuke or even punishment as totally legitimate means?
If you assume that you cannot overcome this conviction, that you cannot bring the other person who uses these means down to your level, what is the insight or consequence for you?
From my point of view, those who use DV-power would only take you seriously if you did not discuss with them but downvote them in turn. If you are weaker than them, they will not take you seriously. They will only take it seriously if they have to deal with a reaction similar to their own.
Either someone would have to find someone who downvotes with the same voting strength or a group of people who do this with stoic regularity and without much explanation. The rule of the game is quite clear: one only listens to the stronger and only bows to those who are clearly the stronger. Arguments are of little interest, it is really a matter of learning that one is superior or inferior (not my view).
Transferred to a street fight, such people who take a good beating would accept the thug and bow down. Where the thug is defeated, the rule of "the strongest wins" also applies here.
Your call for intellectual exchange ist not served. It is probably not even read. The expressions of respect in this direction could be seen as weakness, an encouragement. In my view, you have not only achieved nothing, but you have increased the strength of the person who sees you as an opponent. Either as an opponent who has already been defeated or one who is yet to be defeated. (No offense, I could be wrong with the analyses.)
Since all this can probably be perceived as a game at the same time, people laugh at each other when they are not angry with each other. The player mentality can be seen here on Hive and many online platforms, I think.
My question to you would be: If you were even in your Voting-power would you take up the fight? Are you "in" for those rules?
Hi @erh.germany,
I do downvote if and when it seems correct to do so... however reluctant I am to do so.
Why? Because I believe that one should have class. I believe that one should treat the disease of unfriendliness with a healthy does of friendliness and if the environment does not support this... then it is a doomed social construct as it does not elevate human kind.
If we have no choice but to stoop to brutish levels... then this is not a place to fight over. It has a fatal flaw at it's core.
Technology should be used to bring humanity together and to a whole new plane... if it can not do this then it does not deserve to continue and more than likely will not continue.
If all that matters to those who "run this place" is that their power exceeds yours (intellect be hanged) then this isn't a place that will support growth.
It is unfortunate to see these sorts of minds elevated and given prominence on the platform. Blockchain is a once in a lifetime opportunity. It is a chance to innovate new and better ways to human TOGETHER... and it is a shame if this is not the focus of those making use of the blockchain.
People go to where they are treated best... and so does capital.
That is why I have decided (after nearly 4 long years in the Hive trenches) to power down ALL my accounts and move my business's, ideas, and family over to another place with more positive prospects.
I could attempt to fight fire with fire... and I know that many here think that this is the way to proceed... But I believe that out of that conflict will come nothing but scorched earth.
We need to spend our time, energy, and attention BUIDLing the future TOGETHER... and if we can not get our heads out of our a$$'s long enough to do that... Then this is doomed before it started.
I am an investor who votes his values... It's a decentralized future that made me move 100% over to the Hive Blockchain when we transitioned from the "blockchain that shall not be named"... But I can see clearly that we have not progressed towards a decentralized future in one iota. We have rather exchanged one centralized rotten apple for another.
So for me... I have chosen this day to exit with my feet.
And I suggest that the wise and prudent among us do the same... but that is not my decision to make.
All I can do is lead with action. That is what I have been doing since I came to this blockchain... and it is what I will continue to do.
I do appreciate your time and assessment.
I can tell this from your words that you are wise.
So thank you.
@wil.metcalfe
Hello,
thank you for responding.
So you would like to have a reaction similar to your own, is, how I understand you. I prefer to agree with people, too. I realized though that "similar to ones own" also means to react with strong force - the other side of the spectrum.
I would answer that technology is and is not used for the purposes people like to wish they would. For me, that's plain reality. No unity, in an all encompassing way, will show up in this regard. How could it? Is that a reality you would like to accept?
May I ask, why you do downvote, when you are not fully convinced of it? When you are reluctant in doing so, why doing it at all?
I once had an argument with a friend of mine about a different matter. She was having a break with her partner and fell in love with a youth friend of hers again. She wanted to share with me how good she felt to have found that man again after more than 20 years and she wanted me to be happily excited about it. I did not feel this excitement. Instead, I sensed that she was carrying a bad consciousness with her, the part which did not enjoy the "new love" but judged it. I told her (after she insisted): "Look, if you cannot feel yourself the joy of it, how can you expect me to feel it? If you cannot allow yourself to be of a light and bright mood, don't expect me to bring it to you. I would join you and be happy for you, if you were happy yourself. I cannot see this happiness. But you are an adult, you know what you are doing." I mirrored her in what I thought were her own virtues, not so much mine. For my part, she could have an affair or love more than one man, I wouldn't mind so much. ... I don't know if this anecdote transports what I wanted to say...
Yes, that's what they do. I guess, leaving Hive from your present state of mind will change itself in the future to having had a valuable life experience. At least for me, disappointments can be seen in this way, after some time has passed.
HaHa, LOL :D
Your suggestion to change the location or move elsewhere: I am glad that you do not demand it. I am indifferent to it. I think, for me personally, I will make the same experiences everywhere else. I guess, I am also lazy to build up something new, for I got used to the environment, the features and such.
I think, some people got to stay, in order to be the "middle ground".
... Hm... how about leaving aside the "need" and the "we"? How about to remain spontane towards what brings you joy instead of making an effort towards what you think is a duty (or having financial pressures)? Have you had the experience that a posting of yours received high attention (through either votes or/and comments) while you pressed the publish button without any expectations whatsoever? If yes, can you share the feeling how much fun that was?
If this whole place will sink into oblivion, then it shall sink. I am neither supporting its going down, nor am I eager to promote its going up. For I think, it will sort itself out anyways, like you mentioned. People go, where the most fun and inspiration is to be found. If it uses itself up, they leave. Just different in pace and time.
Don't misunderstand me. I don't want to convince you to stay or to leave. I share some questions and thoughts with you, because I have time and pleasure in doing so.
Greetings to you. :)
please consider reviewing your witness votes