More DEC Rewards Won't Help Bring New Players

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Why do we crypto folk understand inflation when it comes to fiat but not when it comes to crypto?

I'm seeing so many people talking about the new rewards system/game formats as fixing the problem of low rewards because it's gives out more DEC.

Let me ask a question. What would happen tomorrow if every government in the world went to every employer and said for every dollar you pay your employees, we are going to print another dollar and give that to your employees also.

Would people suddenly have more buying power or would the value of the currency get cut pretty much in half overnight and so everyone would be in the same boat?

Well not exactly the same boat right? Those who owed debts would suddenly be able to pay those debts a lot sooner and those who had savings would see the value of those savings cut in half and all their past work would be valued lower because the new liquidity would exceed market demand and lower the value of every unit of money already in existence, even if not currently circulated.

This is exactly what Splinterlands is doing and they are being celebrated for it. People believe that this is somehow adding value into the game and going to bring in more players.

@Yabapmatt says his only thoughts are of adding value to assets holders but over and over again they do stuff like this that strips value from asset holders while not actually providing new value to anyone.

New Rewards Cards Same Size Print Run

The other thing with the new reward system is that people have to own cards or rent cards to get rewards and that could be good except we are so over-flooded with cards that even if they are using the cards, it's not going to make a dent. And here come even more. They add a little bit of demand with the new rules but then they flood the supply 5x what they created demand for.

The new rewards cards will have just as many as the ones we already have out there. @Aggroed sees no reason to do anything differently.

There are rewards cards right now that aren't even half way through their printing cycle, are going for .01 and have over 50k of them sitting on the market for sale with I'm sure hundreds of thousands more sitting dormant with people just not caring enough to put them up. And they see no reason to make the next round of cards shorter.

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Seriously? No reason to change anything as prices are lower every single day on all of these cards and they aren't even half way through the mint yet. And it's not just the rewards cards. Take a look at those gold legendaries. The gold cards also pull down the cards fro packs. But we're going to buoy DEC with packs that are losing value by the day?

How decentralized is a game when the money printers are fully controlled by the central force? Will this change with validator nodes or will this part be considered "core business" and outside the bounds of a vote?

Players need to stand up against this. I see lots of people who believe the game is oversupplied but no one does anything more than casually mention it in the middle of a praise fest about the game's growth.

THE GAME HASN'T GROWN BY A SINGLE PLAYER SINCE OCTOBER. THATS 7 MONTHS. IN CRYPTO.

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The game isn't growing. It's not taking a breather. It's oversupplied and as long as they keep oversupplying it the game will continue to not grow because for every new player who comes in, another one bails. Meanwhile fewer new players are coming in each day.

Big asset holders are just waiting their turn to sell. Every time we get close to the end of some major seller who's pushing prices down, 3 more pop up and flood the market with all their supply. If those people felt their assets weren't being bled of value, they might stick around and we'd see a new bull run which, believe it or not, could happen independently of the crypto market.

Speak up or growth is never coming.

Tell the team we want them to limit the card runs. We want them to be smarter with pack releases.

We don't just want more DEC, we want reasons to need DEC. The system is already set up so that more DEC comes out when demand increases.

Increasing supply without more demand just lowers prices. It doesn't create demand.

Making another super run of rewards cards just makes other cards already out less desirable.

Tell the devs that you've had enough and you want them to be more thoughtful. They can cut back a LOT and not be restrictive to new players. With DEC at peg, you can rent many powerful cards for pennies per year right now.

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I like how you laid this out. I really never thought about it that way. I see lousy growth for the game ahead in general.

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Thanks. I'm really not sure what would turn it around at this point (well I do know but they'd never listen to me so that doesn't matter much lol). Everyone points to crypto as the reason for the months of decline but if you look at basically every other game on hive, they've all been trending upward in the same crypto environment . The only one down has been Splinterlands and they just keep doubling down on their weaknesses.

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I have known of the game since day 1 but didn't start playing until airdrop day 1. It was awesome. I was thrilled to be a bronze player who could earn a little bit. But each change had me less and less enthused. I think it will be really hard to bring new players but I understand the logic behind what they are doing. I think it will end up as a niche game for nerds as opposed to a play 2 earn that appeals to everyone. But that's ok too.

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I wish I understood the logic of what they are trying to do. Everything they come out with seems to be something they came up with while drinking. Sounds great at the moment and its exciting when they announce it but when you look at it with sober eyes, its pretty obviously a terrible idea that's going to backfire. And they always do.

I think it has the potential to be an absolute monster. One of the biggest games ever. I really do. But they seem to have 2 or 3 core philosophies that they refuse to examine that are killing them and everyone who's invested in them since the middle of last year.

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I think newbies have to be able to earn some DEC to get them hooked. That's all it will take. Alt accounts would make that very difficult employ but there are lots of people that will be happy to be bronze players. There should be a way for them to earn while supporting the game at large. I just don't know what it is. Maybe a pool that kicks rewards to newbs willing to KYC their account.

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Interesting idea with the KYC pool.

I think the only way dec will matter on a large scale to new people is if DEC has value.

I think taking away dec from new players was a huge mistake. Suddenly not getting Dec when you used to is demoralizing, especially at a time when 100 dec =$1 and now you're getting credits which are worth 1/10th a dec.

I agree they should bring DEC back to all levels and they never should have removed it in the first place. But I think the idea of DEC getting new players hooked ship sailed a few months after they removed it and didn't care enough to fix it. To have waited until DEC got all the way back to the value of credits and without even much time left in the airdrops before they bring it back to the bronze player is just tragic.

It's hard for me to even fathom that. They did a 1 year airdrop and spent what will be 8 months of that shutting out their smallest players from participating. Now with a little over a month left, they're going to bring bronze back in the fold. Thanks.

Anyway, I just don't get it. People need to stand up to this ridiculous decision making. We all have a stake. These guys get too much praise and not enough, "WTF ARE YOU DOING?!"

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We will see.. more chest per DQ may bring in more players. If they are new, then they won't already have 5000 copes of Venari Heatsmith like us.. and that will be attractive to them. You may be right, its a tough decision to make for them.

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oh don't worry. They can join right now and still get themselves 5000 of their own copies of Venari Heatsmith before the run ends. !LOL

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I think people forget that the biggest time for growth in the game wasn't when new cards came out but when there were no packs or rewards cards at all available.

I'm not saying that's how the game should be run, but maybe the devs could try to learn something from that?

Last week when aggroed was talking about Rebellion, the next pack coming at the end of this year regardless if CL sells out, he said the best way to bring in new players is with new packs. Has he paid any attention to his numbers since CL came out?

He's either living in a dreamworld or he's being dishonest because he knows they need to sell more packs to pay 100+ new employees.

I sure hope that land absorbs A LOT because they aren't slowing down. Rift Watchers is a 10x. There's probably 10 million CL packs unopened between those unsold still and what's been sold but left unopened.

Now e hear new rewards cards have no reason to have smaller prints even though the purpose in the last huge print was supposedly that they expected more huge player growth over the coming months which they didn't get.

What they need to do with land (and this proposal is probably my next post) is make the amount of cards you can stake to your land be unlimited. Then production comes not by maxing out your land with some arbitrary number but by having more CP on your land than any other plot of land out there. Make it an unlimited card sink. If they do that, it could fix a lot.

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Quote THE GAME HASN'T GROWN BY A SINGLE PLAYER SINCE OCTOBER. THATS 7 MONTHS. IN CRYPTO.

That is a very important message for the splinterlands team. Great post! I hope they read this.

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Thanks. I would love it if they read my stuff. !LOL

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I would have to agree that increasing the number of cards isn't really helping much and it's just going sideways now. I see a lot of people complain about the rewards system and how it's unmotivating (even for long time players). At least I see the rental market as the most attractive option and I haven't had much desire to move up my own league.

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Splinterlands only has two structural problems that I know of. Both are fairly easy to deal with but both are also deadly if they don't.

The way they think about bots.

The way they supply the game.

Unfortunately, they just keep doubling down on these mistakes and its killing them and turning people off. I think almost everyone agrees on the supply problems but no one seems to want to speak up.

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Excellent thought provoking article on the state of the game, especially for a relatively new player like myself.

Thanks for the heads up man!

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Thanks. Splinterlands is a great game and they have a lot of amazing plans and so much potential to be great but this is one area that keeps holding them back. We all just need to speak up and make our feelings known on it.

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