RE: Compact Broadcast Node: Low Cost Infrastructure to support Keychain, Splinterlands, Steem Engine and Future Apps
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Problem is that people are leaving STEEM because of the downvotes and these STEEM justice warriors don't get it.
@kawaiicrush is the latest example that I saw today, having a hefty downvote battle and now leaving. He has taken 4k Steem to Blocktrades already and another 6k will most likely follow in a few days. This is real, their purpose does not justify real damage that is done by burning active members.
If I see one every time I search for it, damn.. how much of a % can I see? Nothing...
In life, we can have 100 reasons to stick with something and still one reason against it might be enough to turn around. So @smooth it is not o'right what you do. This is not about being right or wrong. If you have a neighbor in real life, you can choose. You agree or you evade, you don't warship anything, unless you want one of you to leave in the end - in that case, go downvote anything you think he does wrong.
I really don't get where this idea is coming from. In my personal life, I've been voting since I was 10 and had to choose a student representative. Never ever was there an option to downvote, no never. Vote or don't vote. Now we can fight corruption and abuse with downvotes, B U T none should play justice warrior, that will most likely emergency evacuate anyone who gets targeted/suppressed.
10000% agreeing, downvoting is never useful
Steem is better off if kawaiicrush leaves 🙂 and if you don’t know this, then you are speaking without even taking 5 secs to look.. which is not beneficial.
If you don’t understand downvotes and why they are important, then you don’t understand the rewards pool. Rather than raging, take a few moments to educate yourself before attacking others.
There are no justice warriors here, there are people using up and downvotes (based on their stake) which then reaches a consensus and the inflation is paid out based on that.
Downvotes are part of a healthy ecosystem and this one is valid.
I totally understand the system and the goal that is behind that. What I don't do, is to mix up strategy and empowerment. It's the perspective of the power balance in this system that makes it dangerous. The way I've seen downvotes generally used in HF21/22 is fantastic, but I don't think it will stay that way.
The Steemians with the biggest stakes can now enroll a lot of regulation, as they could have since a very long time. But until now they would do that very selective and not based on systematic, or maybe even fully automated rules. Only with the free downvotes, it really makes sense to build downvote systems that strive for a better STEEM environment for . . . . B L A N K S P A C E . . . . .. they can choose for whom.
My father told me once, the best political system in the world might be a perfectly just King. I still don't believe in that. People have different needs and opinions and the people should be the real King.
If you really want to have a giant ecosystem where big STEEM stakes do good for everyone, there might have been less intrusive ways of doing that. Maybe limit the maximum size of upvotes/downvotes or create even smarter curation curves that can perfectly adjust to soft parameters, improve the UI to showcase extensively good content based on upvotes per views or general overperformance of an author. But who am I to suggest such things, I'm sure you already get the idea.
@justineh You seem to have that back to front from my perspective.
Are you really unaware of the negative impact your buddies bernie and marky have already had on chasing away investors?
He is the single largest abuser in terms flagging for fun, shit posts, self voting account farms! and you support that?
Marky is so pathetic he goes through peoples accounts to flag any rewards that he can find to demolish lol The level of thinking that goes on to produce that behavior is staggeringly childish.
You get plenty of people coming to look at the drama sure, and they quickly decide to stay the fuck away with their money.
Flags are fine, the level of abuse being dished out is obscene and extraordinarily self defeating.
Unless the plan is to kill Steem which seems highly likely given the behavior
Your obsession with @berniesanders is pathetic. Get a life.
Where in my above comment to I support abusive behavior? Stop reaching.. I don’t play those games.
Downvotes are good for the ecosystem, no form of abuse is.
Hey @justineh thanks for replying. It is appreciated.
I agree with you, abuse is not good for the ecosystem. I would add that it is especially not good for the individuals on the receiving end.
I can also agree that flags most certainly have their place and valid uses as a last resort.
However I have only seen the valid use of flags rarely.
So the real question I have is, when are you going to stop ignoring the rampant abuse of the system through account farming/self voting/shit posting and abusive flagging of the bernie group of accounts?
The behavior is a clear violation of the terms of service and is clearly not conducive to a healthy ecosystem.
After all, that's what want, a healthy ecosystem that will attract investors right?
Your obsession with @berniesanders is pathetic. Get a life.
Well I can’t really do anything about TOS, I don’t own the site. I also believe there are many accounts doing more harm than the “Bernie ones” you mention.
I’m aware of his downvotes to specific accounts and even though I’m not a fan of downvoting due to disagreements, I also think our actions have consequences and many accounts feel they can troll and attack then cry foul when it’s returned. I would argue these accounts who are causing harm are also driving investors away.
So, I’m one who feels the situation is not as black and white as it’s painted to be.. with that being said I’ve flagged his accounts many times and hope he finds a more positive path.
It’s not my fight, I do what I can.
(And when I tried to make it my fight and solve the “turmoil”, your buds are the ones who viciously attacked me 😉... so maybe you guys need to look in the mirror a bit.)
i disagree with you a a few things in your reply. I will only bother to address the two most personal to me.
If you are unaware of the driven away investors, you have not been paying attention.
And, the ''your buds'' comment I take a personal slur on my character.
Your obsession with @berniesanders is pathetic. Get a life.
lol @kawaiicrush.
I learned from the best! Just helping you to keep Steem thriving!! Wink wink! Be a dear and send my regards to the AI would you?!
Thanks!
Your obsession with @berniesanders is pathetic. Get a life.
Upvotes and downvotes are powers people receive for staking on the Steem network. No one has the authority nor the right to tell you, Smooth or anyone else what they can or cannot do with their upvotes or downvotes. Voting is a matter of subjective stances on issues, and there is no official policy nor should there be an official policy for what you can do and not do with your votes. If there was an official policy that was enforced by a single entity or a power circle, curation would then not be a decentralized system indicating wide community sentiment.