Between an RC and a Hard Place

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This has come up nicely so far!

It isn't finished yet, but it is the wood panel wall behind the benchtop counter, resting on a stone strip of backsplash, made of the same material as the benchtop and island worktop. The wood is aspen, which is quite white and clean and it has been stained slightly with a tint in lacquer and then a clear coat of lacquer on top, to make it somewhat wipeable. Though, how wipeable is yet to be seen, considering it is behind the stove and my daughter's favorite breakfast is bacon and eggs.

What we will likely do at first at least is, create some kind of Perspex shield, until we know more about how it is going to act and react to the cooking environment. We might test a few offcuts also, to see how washable they really are. In a few weeks when all of this is ready, I think that at least looks-wise, it will be pretty nice - especially in comparison to what was there earlier.

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The other thing that is looking good, is Hardfork 26, which seems to have gone off largely without a hitch. I was expecting the cost of account creation tokens to skyrocket, but at the moment, that hasn't been the case at all and they are pretty much the same as previously. This means that I can keep on claiming them, just in case someone comes knocking on my door and needs several thousand. Wouldn't that be great!

What has been affected heavily are the RCs on my Splinterlands rental account:

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Normally it is hovering around 85%, but is now at gurgling down the drain. And, it isn't like this account has no RCs attached to it:

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I can delegate more to it, but I want to see if it is going to balance, but if not, that sets up an interesting usecase straight away for Resource Credit delegation, which is a new capability and there should be interfaces that can manage it soon enough.

But, just think if it doesn't balance, Yes, I am able to delegate RCs to it, but RC's only exist in relationship with HIVE POWER. This means that while RCs can safely be delegated without it coming at a potential vote cost, it also means that some accounts will have to keep more HIVE powered up to manage their card rentals and gameplay. And, if it is powered up, that will incentivize it to be active.

And, because RCs are lost when HP is delegated (gained by the delegate), it means they will have to use their vote themselves on Hive, if they want to maximize. This means that they will vote manually, use autos or create a trail. Which reminds me, I should get the abouttodie account to follow my votes, once the autos are back up and running.

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That is 50 cents (or more useful - 1 HIVE) a day in voting potential being wasted that could be spread from the pool. Nothing to sneeze at.

But, thinking of powering up HIVE, if someone did need 7000 accounts from me for managing card rentals and they needed to have 1000 worth of RCs on average, that would be 7 million HIVE powered up. Of course, that can be scaled in various ways if needs be, but as it is now calculating the true cost of transactions more precisely, we can see that the needs of some interfaces and games are going to get pretty hungry. This will force design changes too, as more are competing for resources.

Over the years, people haven't really understood the value of Resource Credits, but essentially and as the name implies, it is a pay to play mechanism, where there is a gaming hall full of machines, but in order to use them, you need tokens. However, you don't have to pay for the tokens directly, as with Hive power, they are a replenishing resource.

There has been an adjustment of the cost of the machines (in RCs) through this fork and it will be interesting to watch it balance and then see what has actually changed. For most, this isn't going to be an issue, but I would suspect that if commenting a lot, a person might want to power up a 100 HIVE or so to make sure they are always able to, or when possible, get some kind person to delegate some RCs.

RCs pay for the "transaction fees" for various actions, but they have no value themselves (until soon), but what they do incentivize is owning and staking, which is another mechanism to secure the blockchain and creating a little scarcity of HIVE. However, there has been very little need for this up until now and without being able to delegate RCs, most have just gone to waste anyway. Now the "price" of some transactions has increased, it means that there has to be se balancing of RCs, so perhaps some people will have to buy HIVE and power up, get delegations or perhaps, even rent Resource credits in order to do what they want to do.

This is far better than the alternatives of transaction fees like on Ethereum though, as RCs are constantly generated, so as long as a person has enough Hive Power, they will never have to rent or pay for RC transaction fees on Hive.

The delegation also creates other opportunities for games to have hotseat accounts, where they can have players use numbered gaming accounts from a pool, that can have people come and go from as needed. Each will need RCs to operate, but they won't need HP delegations, this gives the power of HP on Hive, but enables other accounts to still operate cleanly, for a more efficient process with less wastage.

What this all does is more closely ties the second-layers to the base layer of Hive, but in doing so, improves the overall potential of both layers and makes both more secure and stable. Also, with a game like Splinterlands for example, the more powered up Hive in the Splinterlands community, the more value the community can provide Splinterlands content on Hive, which gives increased incentive for many players to use both, essentially creating a powerful crowdsourced marketing engine.

For some though who have sold their Hive to get into Splinterlands, it might be painful to have to buy some of that Hive back to keep playing Splinterlands as they have been.

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Down further.

At some point, I will undelegate the HP from this account though and then delegate Resource credits to it instead, as that gives me the Hive voting power back and maneuverability for the Splinterlands rental account at no cost and, I am sure that many are going to be doing the same.

This change is likely going to get some resistance from some people who want to use Hive, but don't want to own HIVE, but overall, when Splinterlands is selling through several million dollars of assets in the space of a couple minutes, I think most of the big players should be okay to spend a few hundred on enough Hive to keep earning thousands more on Splinterlands.

Resource Credits now have investment potential, because they are no longer tied to to the account with the HP. This will hopefully result in new ways to use them and therefore spend them, which might create RC shortages in the future too, though I suspect that is a very long way a way.*

For now though, I claimed a new lot of accounts just before the Hardfork in case they did go up significantly and now, I am just waiting for the influx of people who want them to participate on Hive for "free". Nothing is free in this life...

Nothing.

We all have many decisions to make daily and sometimes, we find ourselves stuck between a rock and a hard place - or some aspen wood and a kitchen benchtop.

Taraz
[ Gen1: Hive ]

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I was using hivetask.com when I got a few accounts, looks like they are not able yet to use RC again to buy accounts, using 3 Hive works, but not resource credits. Guess I should have got a couple before the fork too. (I have 8 account tokens now).

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You can also use keychain to automate getting the accounts, if that is easier for you. The price doesn't seem to have changed much, so getting them before was unnecessary

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I'll give that a try when I wake up after my sleep.

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Using Keychain to claim tokens sounds interesting. How is that done? I looked at Keychain and I couldn't figure it out.
Thanks

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I had a feeling you'd be discussing SL and RCs, thanks for the reminder on how important they could be.

(Missing an image at the top of the post?)

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Is there an image missing? I see them all.
The entry one has wood and stone in it :)

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I have a bit over 100 account creation tokens accumulated. No idea whether I will ever need them, but they're not going anywhere in the mean time. I look forward to seeing RC delegation opportunities. I'd directly delegate RCs instead of HP to new accounts if that option is ever added in.

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The option to delegate is coming, but I will wait for Peakd or Keychain to do it, as I assume it will require active keys.

100 accounts could be 100 friends in the future :)

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From what I've heard delegating RC only requires the posting key.

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That wood, is it a backsplash? I love the look of it but can't figure out the context of where it's at lol.

The RC's for Splinterlands and RC's in general are something I've been keeping an eye on of late. I've helped a few great newbies here on Hive get started out and some of them have needed a delegation of Hive Power in order to keep transacting. Not a bad thing to have for someone who is new, eager to learn and get themselves out there! 50 HP is too little nowadays to do it all which I think is great! 100 is good but 150 is ideal if they want to be commenting on a decent amount of posts per day. I wonder how that will change with the fork and where it will leave us for RC's and HP amounts for the people who are starting out.

Ah 2k HP is nothing to shake a stick at! Lol you should certainly get that thing on a voting trail for now!

Back to the heat question from a few days ago, that's good that you're going to hopefully be able to manage. We lost power here a few years ago for an extended amount of time and one of the things that we did to warm the house that worked surprisingly well is to get a clay pot and some candles. Flip the clay pot over, rest it on some bricks or books so it's a few inches off the counter or ground and light the candles underneath it and it warms up the pot. There is certainly a bit of a risk of carbon monoxide with the flame burning but in a decent size house that's not a difficult risk to mitigate with opening or closing of some doors. Food for thought for ways to try and heat the house as best we can! We managed to bring the temperature up a few degrees to a more manageable level with this method so it certainly works!

We're lucky where we live in some regards. We live in a condo complex and we are in the middle units so our unit stays warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer because our neighbors fluctuate more broadly than ours do. It's not guaranteed for sure but we also have a decent setup in our area where we have two electricity feeds to our corner of the neighborhood, being a complex. If one goes out, another kicks in. It's only gone out once fully in the 12 years my wife has lived here so that's not bad!

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I love the look of it but can't figure out the context of where it's at lol.

Sits up behind the cooktop (range). There is 6-inch a strip of stone along the bottom, then the wood. It will make sense when I show the whole picture later :D

MY RCs for Splinterlands now:

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Yep, 150 is good I think for most things and I will happily delegate RCs in the future to newbies too. Perhaps there could be a pool of them in a central location that can be drawn upon as needed.

The reason SL needs so many on rentals is that it is taking and putting cards on the market, but this scales with the number of cards. For the people with a lot, they should be able to afford to buy a little Hive.

That is a pretty cool idea with the pot! It is essentially what we want to do with our fireplace by putting a "heart" in it that retains the heat.

The electricity supply around the world is going to be an interesting problem, as not only is it the cost, but it is also going to put the shift to chargeable cars back a decade or so, as they have suddenly become far more expensive to run. Hopefully, it will drive for more solar and wind etc though.

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That wood bit looks so nice. And like it would be an absolute pain to keep clean XD

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It is going to be a horror I think! :D

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Are you seeing regrets in your near future? :D

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I am - but I think that I will be able to fix it myself if needs be.... Or paint it with a really thick, glossy oil paint ;D

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Nothings free is right bro. Good that youre doing some work in your house though, good stuff. Im a duck in between the pond and a mossy log, thats my analogy lol. Keep rockin ya beast man, hopefully some changes are good after fork.

!LUV

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lol - is that a good position to be in for a duck?

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Well, depends who you ask big T lol.

Ive put myself in hardship, but its through my bad trading past few years. Trying to be better. Learn from good folks on Hive. The apr and staking game is a better plan for me past year so i keep rockin here. Glad to have your comments back man. Keep rockin ya beast.

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At least with staking and APR, you don't have to look at charts every second of the day :)

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@nealmcspadden was saying our RCs were recalculated, assuming our previous transactions took place at the new, higher cost. (despite being cheaper when we actually performed them). Some people got dragged down to zero. I expect things will look more normal in a few days.

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Okay - mine are still falling at the moment - down to 8% - will be interesting to see where it takes it.

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I remember you said that after a certain HP, everybody can claim new account on HIVE. I am now over 1000 HP, can I as well?

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I think the minimum needed was around 4-5000 HP, not sure now.

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I did know that the RC costs would go up but I don't think RC delegations have an interface yet. So I guess you might have to worry about RC usage until that happens. Either way, it looks like there will definitely be a demand for RCs.

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Yeah, I have heard that actifit might have them in place already, but I wouldn't use that :D

Won't be long until Peakd and Keychain have it integrated.

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That is pretty cool that RC's are going to be independent (sort of) of Hive power now. I have a second account that I have HP delegated to and being able to pull that back might be a good thing. I should really think about running a Splinterlands rental account. I just do everything out of my main one right now. I don't have the collection you do though.

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Ah so that's your rental account! Been seeing it around when I look for cards to rent. Interesting name. Hehe!

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