Gods Unchained v Splinterlands

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Back in the day and well before I bought any Splinterlands assets, one late October night in 2019 I was chatting with @acidyo and he convinced me to buy some Gods Unchained packs on Ethereum. I remember at the time that I felt ridiculous buying cards to a game that I won't play - but,

Ridiculous is, as ridiculous does.

I "aped" in

Not really.

1.62 ETH

you might be saying, "Wow Taraz - that is 7000 dollars into a game you aren't going to play!"

Time makes a difference. My Ethereum was spent at an average of $185 dollars, so that was a total of 300 dollars worth of ETH. What a difference a couple years in crypto makes, eh?

While aping it was not, it was still significant, but I enjoyed opening the packs to see what was inside - which is why I had an "average" buy price, as I bought in a couple lots across a few weeks.

While I hadn't forgotten about this purchase, I also haven't been keeping an active eye on it, since I have held so little, never played and have so many other things drawing on my attention. However, A month or two back, Acidyo reminded me to have a look, as there was some word of an airdrop and it required playing, and who doesn't like free money?

Note: I assumed it would be valueless.

So, how has the "investment" held up.

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Everyone knows that Splinterlands has gone parabolic this year and has been making investers who put anything in or even just played a massive amount of wealth, but Gods Unchained, despite all its support on ETH, hasn't exactly had the same run.

I got into a conversation about the start of Splinterlands yesterday with someone saying that it would have done just as well on another blockchain, and I disagreed. This might be a touchy subject for some, but despite some of the challenges, I think Splinterlands is only as successful as it is, because of the Hive community.

Hive (TAFKA, Steem), was where the initial investment came from through witness earnings and other, the initial income flows were from the Hive community looking to support Hive applications, it beefited from a million posts about the game, that also earned Hive and HBD (the only tokens at the time), and it benefited through a bear market from a community of users who were active in the community of Splinterlands and Hive, spreading their cheer all over the blockchain. There are other reasons why the community has been vital, but I think Splinterlands has done well to reward those who supported them through the thick and thin of the markets.

So then...

How did Gods Unchained fare?

As said, back in the day I spent 1.62 ETH on cards, opened them, and never played a single game. Never even logged in to see what it looked like. I did this recently and it isn't bad, but I have no idea what I am actually doing - I was just there to get the airdrop tasks completed. I lost every game.

Back in the day:

1.62 ETH = $300 in 2019 crypto
Current Eth value = 4300 = $7000

Should I have held?

Current collection value

(based on last sale of cards)

1.42Eth = $6100

Noooooo! I lost 0.2 ETH over the two years!!

If I had just held onto the Ethereum, I would have made 900 more dollars than buying into the game, because, while ETH has gone 23x since October 2019 (39x since March 2020), my Gods Unchained holdings have only gone up 20x - This is a fucking scam! 2000% in two years? This is crypto, it is meant to be at least 10000% by now.

Who am I kidding - I would have sold that ETH well before today.

Oh yeah, I forgot. There was also the airdrop that I pegged as being worthless. Well, not worthless, I expected it to be a hundred dollars worth or something like that, so wasn't even going to play, but decided near the cut off that I may as well give it a whirl.

I got 581 GODS tokens dropped to my account, which after around 300 dollars in transaction fees (wtf did anyone build a game on Eth again?), I shifted into Ethereum and sold.

I dumped it all for two reasons. It is pretty volatile and in my experience with airdrops, they are going to sink fast as people scream "free Willy money" and crash the early price. Secondly, I will get this same amount dropped to me over the next three months in tranches, so if it does happen to go up, I will still have a 50% foot in the door, with one third of that available every 30 days.

So - was it worthless?

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I sold at around €5.58 per token on SushiSwap, which means that the first half of the airdrop has yielded 0.75 ETH, which is almost half of my initial investment.

Dropped GODS = 581 = 0.75 ETH = $3240
Current collection 1.42Eth = $6100

That is a total of $9000 (after fees), which means I am up against just holding the Eth by 28% over the two years, which isn't a great amount, but if you consider that is around 14% a year earned on the Eth, that isn't too shabby either.

Now, I don't know what the difference would have been under the same circumstances if I had put that 300 dollars into Splinterlands instead and held there, but I do know a couple differences worth mentioning.

I didn't play Gods Unchained.

If I had put it into Splinterlands, I would have been surrounded by a community of players posting about it, strategizing about it and most importantly, with a direct gateway to invest in (without the fees) as my own understanding changed. I know this, because I have done it with Splinterlands in the last four months, where while that is very late to the party in comparison, I have gone from someone who was going to speculate on a few hundred Dice packs, to playing and buying more assets; card, SPS, DEC, pooling, earning VOUCHERs, buying Chaos Legion packs...

My Splinterlands holdings are worth about 55K in cards, plus I hold DEC, SPS and a handful of Chaos Legion packs. Not bad for four or five months in and what is probably, a couple ETH in investment capital at today's prices.

Anyone who thinks Splinterlands would have made it anywhere is fooling themselves, as they would have had to make the game and build the community from scratch, something that is notoriously hard to do. Not only that, Splinterlands had access to a banked community already, people familiar with crypto and already primed to be a mouthpiece for their investments - including their game investments. And, they were invested directly on the blockchain that was getting used, meaning they were incentivized heavily from many directions and because many of them were banked here too, they could allocate rewards from the Hive reward pool on the content that supported their investment into Splinterlands -

Remember how much some SL shitposts were earning in STEEM HIVE back then?

All the way through the bear markets.

It is not that it wouldn't have succeeded elsewhere, but it would have been incredibly hard and required a huge amount of luck. Even if they had been successful early, that doesn't mean longevity.

Just remember:

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That is Cryptokitties. Only 517 sales worth 135,000 dollars in the last seven day. All that hype, even from people on Hive, and that is where it is at.

Total sales in US dollars:

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It made 50% of the entire trade value in the first five months it was created!

And it still only has 55 million in total sales.

Splinterlands

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That is an ATH on active rental contracts today with 1.3 million worth 126,000 dollars.

That is just rentals.

Millions of dollars have been traded across all of the assets today and, the ones on Hive at least came with no fees attached.

My point is though -

Community matters

Community is what makes it all work as an economy and it is a vital piece in the success at the start, ongoing and in the future of Splinterlands. And going forward into the creator economy, the expansion of the gaming industry and all businesses and projects - ignore the community at your own risk. Hive is primed for this kind of support and the more it grows, the more it can support and, the more it will grow.

Most of what is going on now in the other projects are flashes in the pan, but most will quickly be extinguished because they have not access to a community ready to drive their success from the ground up. They don't have mechanisms in play to spread the word and, they don't have teams of people who spend thousands of hours talking daily about what is going on there. People complain about "Hive content" but, this is the common denominator for all of us and since all of this sits on Hive, all of it is Hive content.

It is awesome.

So, while my very passive Gods Unchained investment has performed well enough to call it a success, it hasn't changed my experience like Splinterlands has, nor has it helped add value to my other investments like Splinterlands has, including some of the many relationships I value.

I have always been seen as a Hive cheerleader and someone who naively put too much emphasis on the importance of community, but - this is why. The Hive community doesn't just add economic value, it adds experiential value to an investment for a project and the individual user. It is an ecosystem including an economy, meaning that every startup on Hive never has to stand alone, as long as they can convince the community that what they are offering, is worth supporting.

There are many investments out there.
What offers a better experience than Hive again?

Taraz
[ Gen1: Hive ]

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Well this was an interesting little experiment. Nothing like fees to make you want to cry though, not much foresight it making the game on eth.

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But in a few years, it will be cheaper!

:)

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would splinterlands do what it is doing on some other chain? no idea. but community supported it at the start and kept it going for almost 3 years before it was discovered by the "world".

imagine all this renting transactions on eth :D

i know i missed out on a lot on eth, but that is the curse of starting your blockchain/crypto journey on Hive with no fees :D

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but community supported it at the start and kept it going for almost 3 years before it was discovered by the "world".

Yeah. It might have done really well, but it would have had to have taken a very different approach to startup and scale. Matt and Aggroed were already familiar with the benefits of Hive community interaction - so they were better suited to the approach here probably.

imagine all this renting transactions on eth :D

It would have been the Eth transaction record perhaps :D

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I got 581 GODS tokens dropped to my account, which after around 300 dollars in transaction fees (wtf did anyone build a game on Eth again?), I shifted into Ethereum and sold.

Gaming on Ethereum will not be getting full success unless the gas fee will be reduced to almost 0. Gods unchained is pretty good game but i personally don't want to waste my time because my always preferable blockchain would be Hive .
SPS and the Great team behind the project can surely beat the ethereum gaming and all could be possible because Hive .
In 2018 around ,i invested 5 ETH in crypto kitties but i regret because at present ETH value ,I am in deep loss.

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But if the gas fee is reduced to zero, will the value of Eth hold up? I assume not.

I didn't touch CryptoKitties - if there is a lot of hope, it rarely lasts.

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Glad you made a good profit, rising (crypto) tide raises all boats

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There are a lot of boats out there with holes in them :)

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which after around 300 dollars in transaction fees

I always returned to hive but I would probably never visit to ETH. This just seems like a theft...

You joined Splinterlands four months ago? Damn time really flies.

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I think I bought in June or July, so it is around 4-5 months :)

The transaction fees on Eth are killer at the moment. I have no idea why people like it so much.

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Gas fee is a real trouble. I have some AMPL in my Metamask account, but I can't send it anywhere due to high gas fee. The cake is not worth the candle.

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I have some tokens that have been sitting in a wallet for a few years. To move them out, will take over 20% of the token value....

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Good stuff making a meager profit on those insane fees! I was lucky enough to snag some Eth back when it was in that hundred dollar range and have been scared to do anything with it since because of the gas fees lol. I don’t want to piss away my fortunate buy with fees to do something regrettable.

I say to other people as well that the strength of the hive community is it’s active members who are chomping at the bit to test anything out and give feedback. We are always doing that with any new project! The awesome part is these companies don’t need to constantly spend thousands on gas fees. They can spend a few thousand to get some hive to stake and do other things like get hive engine tokens but after that, you don’t need much to keep it going! Getting delegations helps but you can lease those too!
All that stuff, if done on Ethereum, costs astronomical fees! I don’t know why people build things on Ethereum besides DeFi stuff. Games are inherently highly transactional because people are always trying to buy and sell assets. Doing that on Eth is a joke! Goodbye profits, hello fees Western Union would be envious of!

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. I don’t want to piss away my fortunate buy with fees to do something regrettable.

i wonder what happens to the price when fees come down - does it push the price up, or drop it? Reason is, Perhaps the fees are part of the reason price increased so hard.

They can spend a few thousand to get some hive to stake and do other things like get hive engine tokens but after that, you don’t need much to keep it going! Getting delegations helps but you can lease those too!

And from the people who are onboard, it is easy to get resource support :)

Doing that on Eth is a joke! Goodbye profits, hello fees Western Union would be envious of!

This is the irony, isn't it? It was meant to cut out the middleman fees, not increase them! :D

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Yes, Taraz, for a game like this community is very important. I think our game developers understood that from the very beginning. They were/are card gamer themselves like myself MTG/Pokemon. The balance of Splinterlands so far is much better than those two age old franchises.

I am putting my money where my mouth is; just bought some SPS and staked. Takind advantage of this dip.

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They were/are card gamer themselves like myself MTG/Pokemon.

Yes, and they had experience here as well, which definitely helped them get a balance snuck in. If they were from outside the community and had no personal track-record, I think it would have been much harder.

I should grab some too :)

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1M stake seems possible now before pre-sale ends

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I play games mostly on Hive, tried few BSC ones, very dissapointed. !LUV !PIZZA

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Why didn't you like them?

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Basically, they change too fast and reduce the income too often, down to 0.10-0.20 $ daily. Not worth it.

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