Sad News - Steem Might Be Over for Me
So, TPTB decided to spread the rumour that I am the troll behind the accounts @mitrado, @kawaiicrush and @savetheturtles.
Because of this, all of my posts were flagged to zero.
TPTB claim they have evidence to prove I own those 3 accounts, which they don't as I don't have the slightest clue of who @kawaiicrush and @savetheturtles are.
While there's is a part of truth in their story, their conclusion is wrong.
Yes, I know @mitrado well and he was the one who got me into Steemit.
Since I was new to all of this, I committed the mistake of using a shared account with @mitrado for a couple of months.
Since @mitrado is my friend and we visit each other often, I have used his account in the beginning.
@mitrado has very strong convictions and he got into fights all the time, losing his head quite often.
I had no choice but to start my own account and have always refrained myself from taking sides in his fights.
Now, 2 years later, I'm paying the price for that mistake and no matter what I say, TPTB don't believe me.
I apologise for what my friend @mitrado did, as I did share his account. I cannot deny that. 😥
I cannot apologise for the other 2, as I have nothing to do with them.
More, now TPTB claim I am trolling with two other accounts... and, apparently, I need to prove I'm not them.
But how can I possibly prove that? How can I prove I have nothing to do with @kawaiicrush and @savetheturtles?
Heck, today is the first time I see the name @savetheturtles and TPTB claim that account is mine?
These are serious accusations and shouldn't be thrown around without proof.
I hope TPTB can forgive what @mitrado did and me, for using his account...
If they don't, then, my friends, my adventure in Steem is over. Which is a pity since I was enjoying it and I loved meeting all of you.
Peace... @trincowski signing out. For the last time? I sure hope not. But that's up to TPTB.
If TPTB keep believing I'm behind those other 2 accounts, I don't know what to do. I know I'm not them... but how to prove it?
Has anyone got the IP addresses of those accounts - @kawaiicrush and @savetheturtles - so I can prove my innocence?
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You aren’t on a damn blacklist, more lies.
I showed evidence that pointed to you being behind the accounts, it’s not rumors.. I showed proof. You have not once denied anything I have shown.. just claimed you “shared the account”.
I showed what was found and the community can decide for themselves.
You have very much taken part in the same fights as your other accounts and attacked me as well. The sob story is not believable in the slightest.. I don’t throw accusations around unless I have solid proof.
I don’t care what you do, but if the harassment does not stop I will take the next steps.
No, you didn't. Where's that proof?
Well, I am not harassing you in any way, under any account. If you're being harassed, it's not by me and you're destroying my account for nothing.
I get you know nothing about the chain, after all you accused people of stealing your RCs.. but it’s all there. You can see plenty in the post, more is on the chain.
Will the harassment stop now? I gave it plenty of time for you to stop on your own.. now you will be forced to.
What... harassment?
How can I stop 2 users I don't even know from harassing you?
You're forcing me to do what? The only thing you're forcing me is to leave Steem.
And where's that solid proof? I'm really curious now.
What solid proof can you possibly have to claim I'm behind those accounts?
That is a lie and you know it.
@justineh where can see the evidence please?
Its all looking rather barbaric right now. I think you are barking up the wrong tree re kawiicrush That started as female in a nurse uniform, I quite liked it : )
Yes I’m aware of what kawaii was.. as most photos on her blog were of her 10yr old daughter.. so you sure which ones you liked?
She went full troll, and mitrado and others helped... I guess I have no way to show they didn’t just “share” accounts too. 🤷♀️
''so you sure which ones you liked?''
ooo very nasty. Where is that coming from?
Was i mistaken when I stuck up for you? I thought you were one of the reasonable ones. (by the way I went to browines as a six year old kid)
I am only really interested in developing skills to uncover some of things you allude to rather than just relying on pattern recognition.
So anything you can share regarding linking the accounts together will be useful for everyone.
The account who will flag this comment is @themarkymark
The reason for this ongoing abuse? Because I was outspoken regarding the many abuses of thr @berniesanders/@nexygencrypto group of accounts and critical of @themarkymark and his tacit approval of the spam, self voting, and going as far as joining in with the abuse of some accounts.
@themarkymark ‘s stated reasons for the abuse have proven to have no substance. He was proven to be being dishonest in all of his allegations against me.
@themarkymarks behaviour is clearly in violation of the terms of service agreement.
Steemit inc, you need to take appropriate action against this bad actor who fucking up the the credibility of the platform
No, I was just trying to let you know that most photos on that account were or a 10yr old girl, so to be careful.
I just put a full comment on my post about some of the connections between mitrado and the others, feel free to check it out there if you want, I won’t spam his blog here.
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Hey @tts how can i call you to a post i cant be bothered reading?
The account that will flag this comment i @themarkymark
The reason for this ongoing abuse? Because i was outspoken regarding the abuse of the @berniesanders / @nextgencrypto group of accounts. I was also critical of @themarkymark and his tacit agreement regarding the spam, self voting, and joining in with the abuse of selected accounts.
His stated reasons for the abuse of my account, have been proven to have no substance. He was proven to be being dishonest in his allegations.
If you vote for @themarkymark as witness, please consider supporting a more suitable and honest candidate.
@themarkymarky is clearly in violation of the terms of service agreement and should be dealt with accordingly.
The account that will flag this comment is @themarkymark
The reason for this ongoing abuse? Because i was outspoken regarding the abuse of the @berniesanders / @nextgencrypto group of accounts. I was also critical of @themarkymark and his tacit agreement regarding the spam, self voting, and joining in with the abuse of selected accounts.
His stated reasons for the abuse of my account, have been proven to have no substance. He was proven to be being dishonest in his allegations.
If you vote for @themarkymark as witness, please consider supporting a more suitable and honest candidate.
@themarkymarky is clearly in violation of the terms of service agreement and should be dealt with accordingly.
Serious question:
Where exactly did she say you had to prove you are not them?
She claimed I'm behind those two accounts without a single piece of evidence. Now I'm expected to refute her unfounded allegations.
It's her word against mine... but...
I'm "guilty" until proven innocent. Right?
You did not answer my question. This is important because you have now claimed, without supporting evidence, that @justineh has required that you prove a negative, which is false. This calls into question everything you say. If you can't get that basic fact correct, nothing you say can be considered reliable.
I was hotheaded and didn't explain myself in the best possible way. My mistake. I'll edit that sentence.
Interesting that you don't apply the same standards to her. She claimed I'm behind all those accounts. Where's the proof of that?
If she can't get that basic fact correct, nothing she says can be considered reliable.
I don't care. Not my point.
I'm at a loss as to why anyone would think mitrado and kawaiicrush are the same person - the interaction at the following link indicates otherwise:
https://busy.org/@mitrado/re-kawaiicrush-pt0rce-20190613t072355744z
I guess that person made so many enemies that she can't keep track of all of them. 😂
Anyway, I've wasted far too much time trying to refute unfounded allegations.
So, how did you decide to reappear today? Have you been lurking all this time? It's been a while since I last saw you here.
Yeah, been lurking a bit since curation became more worthwhile after the fork. Just happened to stumble upon this drama when I checked in on Steemworld this morning :)
If this doesn't stop, I might stop posting and join you in the group of the invisible curators.
Yeah, can’t imagine why anyone would think you were the same as the troll of an account mitrado as you never go around like a pompous ass accusing people of something they never did like you have a grudge.
(https://steemit.com/ntopaz/@trincowski/re-aliciasteyn-2019311t9910919z) full thread there.
Where I was countering downvotes made by known abusers and you decided to take the opportunity to randomly say my upvote (that came after the downvotes) were the reason the new user was flagged.. yeah clearly no grudge there.
Or where you jumped into an attempt to stop a flag war.. as you and your bud wouldn’t know what to do with yourselves.
Or how your word is hard to take as it’s clear you knew what mitrado did and defended him.. as he “never attacked anyone without being provoked”? How about that first flag he got.. after he flagged and attacked people?
Maybe you should take a bit more time to see facts before you run your mouth.. it would take your word easier to take.
As I’ve said repeatedly now, if I find a connection that even remotely eludes to the idea that mitrado is not behind the accounts listed (whether alone or as a team) I will make sure it’s known. But as far as the rest.. you are connected to the mitrado account and they have been pretty vulgar on their own, only thing we have to see that you aren’t him, is your word.
Your account hasn’t been buried and you haven’t been ruined.. your need to play victim is off the charts.
Stop harassing me.
That’s comical.. tag me in a post and then get mad I respond.. sounds like someone I know.
Have a wonderful life.
I've lost enough time trying to reason with you. You're unreasonable. You want to keep throwing false accusations without a proof? Be my guest.
What about the above is false accusations? Same thing that is harassment I guess?
Get some help.
Stop. Harassing. Me.
Help me, then. Stop harassing me.
i think mitrado is a good person, and usually only attacks when he has been attacked (and he gets attacked by bernie a lot)... kawaiicrush i know little but i saw he tried to help people who constantly get flagged... i know nothing about the third person...
about llfarms i kno little except that i see her verbal support of bernies flag rages, that i disapprove of...
trincowsky just loves art and stuff please leave him be...
i hope that third opinion settles it...
If you actually read the post you will actually see that mitrado was the one who started attacking people in the first place. I’ve never attacked him first, but he has to me countless times.
I have also never supported the Bernie account doing malicious flags and have stated so publicly repeatedly as well as tried to stop them.
I’m glad you like people who go around making death threats, perhaps you should do some reading before you make a comment like this trying to pass it off as fact though.
Trincowski seems to still be posting and I haven’t flagged him or asked anyone to (I actually asked people not to).In fact it seems the flags he got on the other posts were just from someone who had voted the post in the first place.
Your opinion is great, but the idea that “mitrado is a good person that only attacks when he’s been attacked” is incorrect and can be seen all over the chain.
If you like trincowski, vote him. But please don’t include me in comments where you clearly have no earthly idea what you are talking about.
all im seeing so far is u got upset because he flagged u in a rude way? also i dont see the upvote as a good evidence as trincowsky also regularely upvotes my posts and so did i upvote mitrados posts as he got flagged a ton to a point he could not use his steem account anymore... so far u only shown they used to share accounts...
can u give me the link about the death threats u say u recieved and further evidence u say u have.... cuz death threats is a serious accusation if they are true....
https://steemit.com/stoptheharassment/@justineh/the-day-i-found-out-the-person-who-has-been-harassing-me-for-months-is-someone-i-support-often-trincowski-the-man-behind-the
Are you serious right now? A flag I didn’t like? Read the top comment on my post and maybe go do a bit of research into the mitrado account. I won’t be spending my time finding things for you if you are unable to even simply read what has been written and do some searching.
Yes the accounts are connected. I have no way to know if he shared them and neither do you.
Hey maybe I’m sharing this account with an insane person too.. so tomorrow if I rage at you and call you a cunt.. it was just my friend.. sound good?
Have a lovely day.
in steem you can insert links in your comments by just inserting the name of the link in square brakets and then inserting the link in round brakets... u say on ur page ur a "crypto newb" so perhaps u ddint know that...
also the stuff on ur page is far too much and im not intending to scroll that much down, so i assume if u make such heavy accusations such as death threats u had those links already to show that...
also realize even though this is the internet you are still talking to a human on the other end of the line... im only trying to settle things here and i never done shit to you... therefore i would like to ask you to use a bit more polite tone...
You literally just stated that you are not willing to read the post where I show the evidence and then are trying to imply I’m being rude by not linking them here for you specially.
There is no tone in text, it’s text. I could be yelling right now and you would have no clue.. or singing jingle bells while I write this. I’m starting to understand why you came to his defense.
Here is the comment I asked you to read, it’s in the post that I asked you to read.. that would answer your questions. The post shows how trincowski and mitrado accounts are linked, but yes he says he shared it so he’s clearly not responsible for anything the account did.
https://steemit.com/stoptheharassment/@justineh/q0cy7n
In case you don’t want to click, here are some examples of mitrado.
And of course his friends account he had no control of.
I didn’t come to you and try to tell you to not support your friend, but your original comment (to me) was extremely flawed and you seem to not want actual facts in the slightest, which is fine.
As I said, have a lovely day.
i ask again... do you have evidence that YOU have recieved death threats and were an INNOCENT victim of mitrados posts?
i dont see ur name in those comments... its bernie and his supporters in those comments... ive seen plenty of hate speach from bernie and his trolls even under my posts... maybe mitrado is the wrong person for u to flag? perhaps start with bernie?
I’m llfarms, love... and those comments are to me (on both accounts). Anything else?
also your tone kind of hurt my feelings there.
Yes maybe mitrado is just a nice young man who was attacked and he returned the favor... even though the blockchain shows he started every single one of those. Clearly it may be lying though.
who knows i might be singing i might be dancing while writing... i was emphasizing parts of the sentence to bring certain parts of information across...
if u are flagging him under the cover of calling it abuse then do flag all abuse equally no matter if its bernies abuse or mitrados abuse... i can understand mitrados as i have seen bernie attack people who simply posted they have survived major bombings in the middle east and mitrado was not able to use his steem account at all...
and i have been flagged by bernies rage attacks as well and simply writing about issues he does not like will earn you a flag and hatefull comments... so dont tell me that he starts issues... this is just censorship...
also im not convinced that trinkowsky has anything to do with it, so i would appreaciate if u leave him out of this...
🤔 I’m literally not flagging anyone.. and I now see the reason for your comments. Fair enough.
Have a great day.
you too have a great day :) also please dont support bernies censorship (perhaps dont witness vote hime)
even tho u say u say u dont up earlier in the comments i had a different impression from ur comments
https://steemit.com/notentitledtoshit/@berniesanders/you-want-free-speech-go-write-in-a-diary
Oh good god... I just can’t anymore. 🤯
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I don't know the full story nor would I care much to go into all the half-truths, accusations and such. I think the main issue here is that your alibi is rather flimsy. Maybe take a break until tempers subside and cooler heads prevail and then go about your separate ways on the chain.
She made some serious allegations... and without proof. She claims to have it but never releases it. Meanwhile, her friends made sure to flag all of my posts.
I guess that in Steemit, you're guilty until proven innocent. A bit like in North Korea.
Is this really necessary? I know that things have been hard in the aspect of the pagios.
Of course, here we are talking about more serious things and in my personal opinion, unless you are a sociopath and put aside much of your day to drive, how many? 3 steemit accounts plus yours? Well friend... :(
I'm waiting for the evidence they claim to have against me. But I think I'll die waiting.
PS: I manage 2 accounts, this one and @trincowski-pt, with Portuguese content only.
So yeah, I guess I would have to stay up 24h a day to manage 5 accounts. 😂😂😂
The waters will calm down someday.
Hi @trincowski و I'm upset about the accusations made against you and I try to help you.
Thanks, @marya77. I plead my case and she hasn't enough proof to backup her accusations. I am not bothering myself with this anymore. Let them believe what they want.
Yes it is my friend @trincowski. I am sure these accusations are not true and you will continue to do so.
This is serious drama
Dear @trincowski
I'm sorry to hear that you had this unfortunate "pleasure" to be targeted by this user. I also have some unpleasent memories of our past events and conversations here on Steemit with her.
I agree. And I really hope that you guys will manage to solve that issue. It would be waste if Steemit would lose another valuable member.
Yours, Piotr
Thanks for your words... I hope I can stay, too. 😑
Sounds like a terrible mess and sorry to hear you have to deal with all. I've certainly enjoyed both your posts and your support of my content so would hate to see you go, but understand also the frustration.
Hugs, Kimberly
Yes, it's a terrible mess and a big mix up, I'm sure of that.
I'll continue posting but since I don't know if I will be further attacked or not, I'll probably make shorter posts for a while.
Thanks for your words, Kimberly.
It's so sad to see this happening :( I absolutely support you and I think it would be so sad here without you :) I do not know how but I hope very much that someone will help you to prove your innocence. Such accusations are so so disgusting... :(
Thanks for your support, @zanetaviz!
You are absolutely welcome! ;)
That I know, you've been supportive and well mannered towards various visual artists.
Your dedication towards this community is visible in my opinion.
This too shall pass.
I hope so. Thanks for the support.