Where are you relative to your peers?

Among Peers

This is a series of fourth post I did on land efficiency at Praetoria for Splinterlands. The goal of these posts are multiple

  • Look for overall inefficiency in Land utilization, and fix them
  • Motivate people to improve their land game
  • Compare yourself with others, and see how can you improve
  • Compare yourself with peers, meaning people with similar assets and investments

The goal of this post is to find your own place in this universe and see if you can make it slightly better.

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This is a simple plot of number of active plots people hold, with the active staked DEC they have to farm these plots. The circle size is proportional to the boosted PP of the cards they have staked on land. This plot is easy to understand, and visually pleasing. I will use this to slide along and find your peers.

There are only 12 people with 500+ plots active. Here are their statistics.

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I have already talked about most of these individuals, so I am not going to discuss this table. We will move on to the next group of peers.

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People with 100 to 500 Active Plots

There are 63 accounts in this category. No they are not all peers. Since their distribution and asset ownership are variable, their efficiency is also highly variable. The best fit curve is a cubic equation. It is used just as a reference. Above the curve means, you are deploying more DEC compared to your peers, below the curve means you are deploying less, but getting the same earning. We will test this with further plots.

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Here is a good group of peers, they are very close to 100 active plots, so they don't show up well. However, if you take a glance at the table, you can see they virtually have the same number of plots.

PlayerBoosted PPCountDEC/hrDEC_StakeLDELCELPE
slobberchops1,219,9751031353,292,8591,019.39,0631.31
kauffdiggity1,842,645103-4012,836,201-294.4-4,590-3.90
ajpl2,335,0751022814,650,000689.78,3122.75
  • first, they are very different DEC/hr, kauffdiggity is deeply negative
  • @ajpl is more efficient than @slobberchops, reflected in higher LPE and lower LDE for ajpl
  • that said ajpl does require more DEC that slobberchops

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I didn't plot the negative data, it simply looks bad :)

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People with 50 to 100 Active Plots

There are 80 people in this group. I had the change the scale for visibility of the scatter, so it might seem wider, but it is not. The clustering is similar to the previous group.

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Again, we can test a small sample so that you can see all the ratios closely.

PlayerBoosted PPCountDEC/hrDEC_StakeLDELCELPE
xawi1,429,057781311,487,986474.910,9461.67
thejedo3,165,604765791,713,245123.35,4687.62
nullfame4,085,193761192,209,920772.634,2771.57

These three folks have very similar plots, but look at my boy @thejedo !

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Best LPE in his class! 5X compared to his peers! Now, that is what I call excellent!

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Finally, the group 1 to 50 Plots

This is a difficult area to plot, because of data density. However, a lot of my close friends are here. I have displayed many of their names. 2301 account falls in this category. So peer analysis must require deeper dive.

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There are a lot of inefficient accounts in this space, and I have to think about how best to plot this area in more details. That will be my task for this weekend. Important thing at first glance is to look at the range of DEC staked. At 5 plots group, please have staked 10K DEC to 150K DEC! That is a 15X range. So the results of earning must be highly variable.

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Yeah, I'm in that last group! Bringing up the rear as usual!

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Nothing wrong with that. As you can see that group is huge so I have to break it up into smaller chunks

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I have to say, it's a great feeling to be recognized like this!

Thanks for plotting the data and turning them into a more digestible format.

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Plots are like art! Otherwise it's just dry data :)

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I love that. They are like art, indeed.

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Does below the line means I am less efficient compared to my peers?

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In that area variance is very high. You saw the range is 15X so a single line which represents a curve fit means very little. But that say lower on this plot is more "efficient"

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I'd love to see my ratios if you'd be willing to extract it? I have 7 plots of land but am so curious to whether I'm being efficient or not.

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there you go!

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You are far better than @bjangles I see!

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Woowee, yea I may need to re-evaluate my land allocations at some point. But first, CA! Then land :)

Is your full spreadsheet viewable somewhere, az?

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Shots fired!

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@bjangles need to get his acts together!

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:D

I'll get there! Looks like I should probably start to consider expanding to 10 plots for a bit more balance. My magical plots are very resource-intensive!

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Thank you! I'm super happy with my LDE rating now. That's awesome.

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Nice to see the ‘little guy’ chart, becoming more efficient down at that level is difficult really having to pick my workers carefully, a lot more difficult than just picking the highest PP cards I have, weighing up staking more DEC vs Buying better workers…

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It is a process. We are all trying to work on it better.

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@beaker007 @azircon Can we add an earnings yield metric which can measure efficiency based on cost?

I think it will be useful for smaller landowners and even convince those on the fence to look into land. It can also act as a benchmark for some landplayers in terms of what to aim for per additional DEC spent. Just my thoughts.

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We thought about the "cost" part a lot. It is impossible to benchmark.

For example cost of plot and card, different people have purchased it at different points at different cost. It impossible to know at what price.

It is possible to do a mark-to-market based on current prices but that is still a lot of work.

Remember this is something we do in our spare time over night and weekends and there is only so much we can do.

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Thanks @azircon !

Yes, we definitely understand that this is something done on the side and voluntary; hence, the community is very much appreciative to what you guys are sharing. :)

It's also something I wish I can do myself, but will definitely take a lot of time to learn and process. This is actually what I like about Splinterlands. It is not just about a game. There is economics, some opportunities for coding exercises, data analysis, blockchain concepts ,etc.

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Great plots and explanation once again—well done! 👍

Recognizing the data is one thing… now it’s time to act on it. That goes for me too! 😅🤣

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Yeah. You can see I have a huge number of plots under construction! I am near top 10 in DEC staked and top 5 in active plots. There shouldn’t be any reason that I am not top 5 or 10 in DEC earnings. That is just average:)

I hate to be below average

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hate to be below average

Work in progress i see..

The staked DEC is one of the biggest bottle neck at this moment i think.

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It is the biggest bottleneck. But think about why it was designed. If that was and is not there. Legacy players some of them are legacy exploiters, who still have some free alpha and beta cards will put them on land and get free DEC which they will sell immediately.

In this game the main problem is to fight not the monsters but exploiters. Trouble is a lot of the rules that were placed to resist exploiters also hurt honest players!

I am open to suggestions. However this is the status now.

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I totally agree that measures are necessary to prevent exploitation.

That said, OGs are still very well rewarded through the boost those cards provide on land, which I think is fair and well-deserved.

As for a solution to the exploitation issue… it's tough. Maybe something that involves more human interaction within the app—actions that can’t be easily botted through transactions. But then again, as we both know, almost everything can eventually be botted. 😅

I keep thinking about how to make land more accessible and engaging for smaller players. So far, the only realistic path I see is to reinvest slowly, compound, and grow over time. Not flashy, but sustainable.

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Thought I'd be in the 50-100 group, but just counted and I'm only running around 40 plots total. They're good ones, with heaps of multipliers, but still. I need to get in that 50-100 club.

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Here you are

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This is sorted for DEC/hr earning, and you are number 42.

I have these 7 different parameters, and leaderboard looks quite different based on which one you are looking at.

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I started selling my resources now instead of putting them into the pools. The idea is to use that DEC, double it and buy cards with that to stake. All this calculations on land got me hooked, I really want to do progress there. I should start collecting data on that, too, so I can plot my growth in a few months :-)

You get that data from beakers tool, right?

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Yes. I sell my surplus resources too.

Yeah, all data from beakers tool. It is structured data. You just experienced what happens when you deal with unstructured data. :)

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Lol yeah... That was definitely an experience 🤣 But it was fun to structure the unstructured data 🙃 My goal for this year is to get to 1,25 LPE with the 5 plots I have. Let's see if I can get there. And no, I did not calculate that goal, just threw it out there 😜

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first time to see my name. i am almost done with my CA collection target and will get back to land right after. thanks for the reminder azi. love your posts and the information you are sharing.

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I don't assume I belong in any of these groups. 😀

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