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Hey all, I'm aggroed. I'm a witness, and I'm in the top 20. I have a lot going on in that I run splinterlands and hive-engine. I build a lot of apps and tools. I'm one of the team members behind hive keychain. I helped create nftshowroom.com where over 1000 artists sell their art NFTs and they have made 400k Hive in that process. hive Engine supports games like dcity and tribes like leofinance. I think it's a pretty important piece of the Hive ecosystem.

I use my witness rewards to add liquidity to Hive-Engine and pay for development on hive-engine. Hive engine does not make a profit. I'm spending more on devs than it makes on fees and that comes out of personal funds.

I've put a few hundred thousand Hive into there for you guys to be able to trade while we're still updating the Decentralized Token Funds so that we can get BEE rewards to liquidity pool stakers. It's coming. It's in the works, but it's taking some time. But that development costs money!

I would like to do proposals to help fund that development and fund more liquidity, but the whales don't universally support my efforts here. Many seem to think I'm just a money grubbing asshat. The asshat part may be true, but I think the money grubbing thing is wrong.

Splinterlands makes money, but it's not like it's a cash bonanza for us personally. We hire devs, we run a business, we have brought over 110k registered users to get to know Hive. that said it doesn't translate automatically into cash on hand for me personally. So, while your first instinct may be "well fuck that guy he has plenty of money" I actually spend the money as fast as I get it and more helping to make hive cooler.

If you like that please vote for my witness. The Hive that I get from that will continue to fund Hive Development and liquidity pools.

I guess I'll try again on some proposals. Maybe back fund some of the opensource development work we've done like make opensource NFT contracts. We'll see. I suspect I won't get support. You'll notice a few mega whales on the platform choose not to vote for me or work that I do here. it makes it tough to get platform funds to help build platform wide tools that have a massive impact on the success of Hive and it's token price.

Anyway, if you have a spare vote please consider putting on my witness and let's make Hive moon.



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Now I will try to do it. Thanks sir for the nice post. Good luck to you.

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How can you survive if you pay for everything out of pocket xD
Doesn't sound profitable my dude :D

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it's not 100% out of pocket. It's just expense>revenue. I have long term hope for this thing, so I stay at it. Maybe one day I'll be able to dev less stuff... but probably not.

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Wouldn't it be posible to invest more of the "profit" into other avenues, so that can bring in more revenue? :D

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I'd like to know what kind of beef is out there. I have gotten the impression over time that there are people here who aren't supportive of you specifically and not trusting you with money is also something that has come up. Why?

I've been voting you for witness, so I don't need to be swayed or anything, but I'd like to know why this rift in the community exists.

I seem to recall once thinking you were a money grubbing asshat (over the switch from hive or dec to credits for affiliate bonuses... but someone explained it was something of a necessity so I got over it) ...so I wonder if it's that level of contention or if there's serious behind the scenes stuff that drive this narrative.

I'm also unclear what kind of legal issues you're involved in and if that feeds the concerns, and if so if they're justified.

But for what it's worth, I think you're doing great work here. In fact, I think most people don't know how significant the work you're doing here is.

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IDK. They don't always up and share what they're thinking. Some hate me cause i tried to make peace with justin sun. some hate me cause I try to build a lot of stuff and it has varying degrees of success. Some hate me cause I didn't close down steem-engine and fuck all the guys that helped pay for the tech. Some hate me personally. Some are retarded. Some don't like my political views. Some people don't like the tough calls I make along the way. Some people try to bully me and find I don't go fast enough. Some think I don't bleed hive enough. Some... whatever. they find different reasons.

Marky thinks I'm too pretty.

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I think you hate me. Is that true? Or am I just being paranoid?

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BAHAHAHA

Nice

I like it!

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chuckle

I really don't think people hate him as much as he thinks they hate him.

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Well I hope he doesn't get anymore negged out with everything because he is minting it hardcore.

Then again that's what makes us all human. The raw emotion that controls our actions.

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I've grown bored of platform politics. Strictly business for me. I think some of these folks would benefit tremendously putting the past behind them.

People watching can be fun though.

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When I was young my grandmother used to have a servant take her to the local market where she would promptly plonk herself on a chair and watch the people living their lives in the market as her TV, from morning till lunch time.

That was how she spent her mornings for entertainment.

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"Marky thinks I'm too pretty."

Shit, man. We all got that affliction.

That's an impressive list, but surely that's not all. :D

I petition the community to add to it. I hereby announce the start of the "Fuck Aggroed! ...But Why?" campaign. Everyone is encouraged to participate. Explanations are very welcome but I don't wanna bog down the fun with a bunch of drudgery.

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Marky thinks I'm too pretty.

If this greedy idiot doesn't like you that speaks in your favour.

Splinterlands is doing great, but if the top witnesses of this platform aren't able to recognize the benefits of this game, you actually might consider to switch the blockchain.

(I am still voting for your witness with my remaining few HIVE.) :-)

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I build a lot of apps and tools.

This is an understatement. This is one of the guys that builds the tools that regular folks like the rest of us use without even knowing it. Thank you.

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I like your work a vote for you already. I know there is some history there that would be great to air for the entire community so maybe we can resolve it. I would like to see a post were all these whales hash it out so we can see all sides. I want these whale battles to be over because it hurts the rest of our community. Let's see the history, talk and heal wounds. Hive on!

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A very wise and correct decision. Thank you

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I would love to see an end to the in fighting and whales arguing over pennies. With a bit of effort and combined planning they could turn it into dollars and branch out separately into their own projects.

With hive running smoothly people could focus on their own corner of the chain and not have to be fighting over the same patch of chain. Think smarter and long term.

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I know you are one of those who have done most for the Hive eco-system, you deserve to have a higher position on the witness list. Congratulations with being top 20, I know you have worked hard for that position.

/Lasse

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Hey aggroed, I've been voting for you as witness for quite a long time, not because I think you need the HIVE, but simply because you've been building some of the most valuable projects for Hive. And if that, in combination with showing the world that people who provide value for Hive are going to be rewarded, is not a good enough reason, I don't know what is.

Let's make Hive moon!

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Thanks Wolf. The sites and tools you make end up making Hive better. that's why I support you. We need more apps, tools, sites, games, nft projects, liquidity and a bunch of other stuff. Cheers to the doers!

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Gday mate. Thanks for the back ground info, i love hearing about that stuff. Im one of those that splinterlands has brought and introduced to hive, which i knew nothing about. I've been introduced to new communities and been able to start my own guild and participate with beginning mot Owen little community.

I've up voted you, is that the same as voting for you as a witness or is that a different process? If it is a different process let me know and I'll follow it up.

Keep up the good work!

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You are a big piece of the soul of hive. It's sad to hear that some whales don't support you. I want to support you in every way. Link your propositions and I'll vote for them (after a quick read of course).

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You are one of my favorite witness around here even back at STEEM, you've always got my vote.

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I've gotten some feedback from a few folks (they already vote for me so it isn't a sway thing) that they really want the apr to be 10%. I've adjusted up.

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Would you help develop a version of Hive Keychain that works on Basilisk browser?
It's the old version of Firefox before the plugin-backend change.

It's based on "Unified XUL Platform (UXP)." https://basilisk-browser.org/

That'll get my vote.

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Well at least it’s good to know that the whales really don’t support anyone but themselves so I have your back buddy! I am thankful for Hive Engine in that it has allowed me to build my businesses such as @hivelist and @hivehustlers, which my hive engine witness pays to keep those up so I feel you, lol. It’s not cheap to support a community much less the entire second layer that supports all of the tribes. Keep it up!

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Awesome work. I will vote for your Witness. Hive-Engine is great. I’m buying all the dipping coins over there. Making a small fortune. I owe you a few Million $$$

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Always had my vote :) Didn't know you helped with NFTShowRoom etc. Love those platforms keep up the good work and thank you for all you do!

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I’ll double check, but I’m pretty sure I’ve already voted for you. Does it help if I buy more Dice in Splinterlands?
Of course I’ll throw my vote at your posts in between curating SkateHive, which isn’t huge, but it’s getting bigger. Ether way, thanks for all that you do man, I think you’re a huge part of this community! Keep it up!

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Already voted for years :).

simply do a proposal, IMO if it could lower the cost to a very affordable level to get Smts to hive for everyone, it should get voted.

Even the Whales that don't want to support any sidechain know, cheap smts are a key metric for hives success + onboarding.

But I agree with the point, Hive engine has its own government system and the average hive user has no influence on it. That is something that makes it difficult IMO.

I think you know better what cost/ benefit would be.

Besides the DAO, I think you have a really good reputation to raise additional funds for a project :) And if some whales do MIMIMI, Hive engine deliver a product that works. IMO if HE could handle soft wallets for super cheap onboarding, it would be worth to fund 1000%!!!

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Already a voter and supporter of your witness, but I'll reiterate that I love what you are doing for the greater Hive community and I will continue to support your witness for that reason. I know you put a lot more time, energy, and resources (including your own money) into supporting and developing improvements for the greater Hive community. I have unfortunately seen some members of the splinterlands discord and what not put forth comments along the lines of "money grubbing" and such; and I must say I hate seeing comments like that about yourself and some other witnesses/contributors. As a fellow hobbyist hive dev/contributor and witness myself, I've observed that sometimes members of the community who aren't quite as involved or simply just unaware sometimes forget that most of us are just volunteers, and I think that some deserved kudos to yourself, core devs, and other contributors (who really are just volunteers) is in order!

So anyway, TL;DR thanks for all you do and your hard work in helping to improve Hive. I love being able to contribute as a dev alongside great contributors like yourself and for most often times, little to no compensation or recognition. Which is okay, because I am sure you have a similar stance as myself in that we do these things not for those reasons, but instead to contribute to a better future for Hive and the world of blockchain in general! Have a !BEER on me and keep doing you, I certainly appreciate your dedication and hope the greater community agrees as well :)

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Already voting and will continue to do so. Hive-engine is a major part of hive and the better it gets the better everything gets.

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I checked and you already have my vote, along with yabapmatt.

It's hard to imagine where hive would be without Splinterlands & Hive-Engine.
Keep up the great work!

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This post is the worst woe is me sob story I've read in a long time. Choosing witnesses isn't about which projects you want to support but who you want protecting your assets and keeping the blockchain secure. I never see you around during hard forks or critical events, nor do you have the technical experience to offer much if you were.

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I actually think adding value to the community is an extremely valid reason to vote for a witness.

In addition security is a valid reason.

If a chain is successful but doesn't have security, that is clearly bad.

If a chain is secure but holds no value, that's a waste.

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Yeah, I mean. When I look at successful projects they aren't made up of 100% of the same people. A blockchain project only filled with egghead engineers likely isn't gonna work. Similarly a blockchain project with only business people isn't gonna work. You need someone for the silica chips and the carbon based life forms.

Ideally you do it in a non-toxic environment. You don't shit on every influencer that swings by the say hello. You don't purposefully drive people away with flags and nasty comments.

We're at token 190... this project doesn't need another dev making minor tweaks to the blockchain. It needs an assload of apps dragging people in by the millions. We should be the most business friendly place around, but we're not...

Why so many of the top witnesses don't see that boggles my mind.

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I agree, when I look around Hive right now, I see some of the most engaged users, building communities and Tribes.

All the talk of 2nd layer solutions, so far I only know of one.

I don't discount that security is also important, and think it takes a mix.

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Excellent response. Not everyone on a winning hockey team is a goal scorer or can even shoot the puck well for that matter. You need people who can pass. People who can hit. The coaches. The waterboy even. It's teamwork from the locker room to the boardroom. And even when things get heated (it's not always pretty nor does it need to be), the common goal remains intact. My coach used to say, "Speak up, then shut up." Don't let a problem eat away at the mind because staying focused is crucial; don't dwell on it after the fact or turn it into a spectacle (a common challenge for most). I could keep going but the point is, if the team can't gel, you'll see a lot of empty seats in the stands. And this ain't no pond. There's money involved. This is the big leagues. Gotta pull your weight. No choice. Cool. Maybe I'll throw a vote your way now that I know where your mind is truly at. I don't expect people to be perfect. But you need to know this approach of yours where everyone kind of gets lumped into a pile and thrown under the bus doesn't create much of business friendly environment either.

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That's not really what I said. My point is voting witnesses isn't about which projects you want to support. Witness rewards are not project funding.

I believe voting witnesses can be about what else they do, but the most important aspect of a witness is protecting the chain and if we vote in 20 people incapable of doing that we will be screwed.

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A few good security people on a well rounded team of people who care about the future of Hive is a must. Alone it isn't enough.

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Yeah but @whatsup has a point you made it sound like it had no value. So you communicated your message poorly.

I happen to think he switches from project to project before they can really work as well as hoped... i would love to see more focus on some of the really cool stuff he's done to get them to really powerful stage.

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It has no value when it is the only reason for deciding.

I think voting a witness just to "fund a project" is a very bad idea.

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On the same page... Good thing it's not the only reason. Case closed.

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5 years of various projects, none perfect, but several highly successful.

A concern for the community

Excellent project management and team building skills.

That's why I vote for him.

Don't get me wrong, I hear your point about security and understand it is important. In addition, a well rounded team with various expertise is also improtant.

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Not really a team when he is never around for anything witness related. Not once.

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It's actually an interesting discussion, but there are a few bare minimum requirements for sure.

"Witness Related"

Run a current witness with current version of code, keep the price feed and a few other settings current. Sign blocks.

Those are the critical "Witness Related Duties".

After that, I guess it's up to what stakeholders value.

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It is all subjective and I have my own opinion. I will only vote witnesses capable of running their own witness servers and would be helpful in a time of need and are actually present.

I also don’t believe in choosing witnesses simply as a means of finding. It puts our chain at risk and all of assets.

I take choosing witnesses seriously and ability to maintain a witness and offer value when the shit hits the fan. Everything else is a bonus and respectable but to me that is the minimum acceptable value.

That’s my opinion and may not reflect what others think.

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I think that is a fair set of things to value.

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ask yourself WHY he doesn't talk in a place where YOU are very prevalent (and NGC used to be prevalent). Maybe he needs to suck it up... but sometimes the answer to your questions is right in the mirror.
I bet @aggroed reads those channels way more frequently than he writes.

Also he's busy actually DOING things... (or hyping things haha)

Again we can debate the efficacy of moving from one project to another before ever polishing them up... etc etc

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ask yourself WHY he doesn't talk in a place where YOU are very prevalent (and NGC used to be prevalent). Maybe he needs to suck it up... but sometimes the answer to your questions is right in the mirror.

He doesn’t participate in witness channels because I’m around? Wtf? Seriously? What kind of bullshit is that? What did I do to scare off a grown adult?

What do I have to do with NGC? No one else ran away because of that excuse.

I bet @aggroed reads those channels way more frequently than he writes.

If he reads it one day in the last 4 years that’s pretty much true.

Also he's busy actually DOING things...

Ok so the reason he makes a good witness in your eyes is cause he is busy doing everything but witness things? Umm, ok check.

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I said "maybe" you're the reason, I also said "I bet he reads"... I'm not him, I'm not his spokesperson... I like to put myself in other people's shoes and consider what may motivate them. Just guesses.

Case in point you completely read way too far or misread into every single statement I made ... atrocious communication skills these days, but you are amazing communicator when you want to be. Just seems like you're choosing to be caustic on purpose because it's a sport for you... maybe?

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Case in point you completely read way too far or misread into every single statement I made ... atrocious communication skills these days, but you are amazing communicator when you want to be. Just seems like you're choosing to be caustic on purpose because it's a sport for you... maybe?

I said "maybe" you're the reason

This is a pretty messed up thing to say. How the hell would it be my problem? Because I spoke up a few times when he did bullshit things that others completely agreed with? Come on wtf.

Atrocious communication skills? You flat out said I’m probably the reason he is a shitty witness. You may not like what I said but it is 100% up front and accurate yet some how you say it is my fault? Wtf do I have to do with his day to day life.

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You flat out said I’m probably the reason he is a shitty witness.

Nope.

But now that I think maybe I'm not being fair to you either and I'm sorry.

And we aren't communicating well as you're misreading most of what I write (maybe that's my communication fault) so this was a mistake to even start. And like I said I wasn't likely being fair to you either.

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I submit my evidence that marky is upset at me for being too pretty.

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You look like someone is wearing pork chops for ears. Not sure I would call that pretty. No way this garbage should be the top post on Hive.

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lol'd..! Fuck sakes. XD

I mean, you guys can not like eachother, that is fine.. It's not my place to say you guys need to shake hands and kiss or anything.

But the name calling and abuse stuff is a bit out of character Marky, you're a guy who is generally looked towards to be the calm and collected type that rarely if ever goes full KLYE on folks and gets nasty.. I guess we are are all entitled to KLYE moments though. <3

That being said, I do do agree with this post being on top when it was a bit much, ideally if the higher-ups need to rally for votes they do it in a way that doesn't displace those posts that have either better content or something that isn't so internal affairs centric.

Anyways, please be nice, or don't, it matters none to me.. I just hate seeing the guys that are both effectively wanting the same thing doing a personal attacks for pork ears or whatever. lmao

(for the record not trying to defend ole Aggy Jones, just read through this, lol'd and was like "man, Marky you being naaaasty" and figured I'd make a comment on it)

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He said I downvoted him because he was too pretty, I was just clarifying that wasn't the case.

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LOL. You're killing me Marky.

Yeah, reading back now with that in mind that is even funnier.
God you guys are hilariously dicks to eachother sometimes.
Probably an asshole myself for laughing, but ya'll crank off the odd zingers that make me giggle.

For the record Aggy is very pretty, Still waiting for a hivefest to take him home. XD

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This is what I told you Kyle. That this Hive thing is likely going to have to fork away again under different leadership in order to succeed.

This infighting shows how these dinosaurs are hindering growth. Granted the code is still getting developed and people like @aggroed have done much good but this toxic environment will never appeal to a mass audience.

A t20 witness should be trusted and supported by most other t20 witnesses. Yet emotions come in. Egos get flexed. @themarkymark is also clearly butthurt because his sad stem tribe didn't succeed like he envisioned and for that token to exist he had to bow down to the H-E mafia boss.

But it's not just here with these two. Across the chain the cracks are evident. You have an OCD operation thinking that onboarding through seminars is how growth will come. Desperate measures. When really a simple platform 'sign up' is the standard to onboarding everywhere else so Hive shouldn't need people to sit through a 1-2 hour information session to be convinced to join.

Oh but @acidyo is rewarding that with "poshtoken" so that's not a fail. The very users that receive it keep asking what can they do with it and so the awkward silence is the response from acidyo.

Then those clowns on 3Speak think INCENTIVES to DELETE videos is how growth of video usage on Hive will happen. With no damn audience to even get views for the videos. Which, peaks at around 20 video uploads a day. The very people who want to participate have voiced their concern that on their low end system they simply can't even host a tiktok video. But nah @theycallmedan was once a "pro poker player" (so he says) so maybe he'll bluff his way into crushing that evil Alphabet company that allegedly "censored" him for no reason. Even though his old crappy videos are all still on YouTube.

Anyway I could go on.. but if I'm wrong then just point it out to me as I always welcome correction and education where I am wrong.

If I'm right though...
Then sooner.. BEFORE later...
People are going to have to take these issues seriously. Or else.. where is this thing really headed? One year on and it STILL.. ALWAYS trails behind Steem. With those smug Koreans toying with the Hive token like a cat with an exhausted mouse.

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@themarkymark is also clearly butthurt because his sad stem tribe didn't succeed like he envisioned and for that token to exist he had to bow down to the H-E mafia boss.

LOL wtf you smoking?

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lmfao. Now THAT is satire in it's finest Marky.

Cmon, that shit was hilarious.

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You've made multiple posts about TRIBES in general but with the undertone of hoping to drive traffic to YOUR tribe. And you yourself make that claim of "wish it was more successful."

The fact your tribe exists and that it could only exist as a H-E token means you at some point had to give money to aggroed... whom you apparently aren't sexually attracted to but have a secret crush on.

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A nonsensical suggestion that the individual casting the opinion is utilizing the use of substances to arrive at that perspective is a clear display of deflection from the part of the individual whom the opinion is directed at.

So the fact that YOU DID make multiple posts about TRIBES. The fact that you did in those posts voice your desire to attract users to YOUR TRIBE and even expressed your disappointment that YOUR TRIBE didn't take off... after the fact that for YOUR TRIBE to exist you had to have PAID @aggroed the required amount to create your token...

All that is a manifestation of my hypothetical usage of drugs is it?

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lol @themarkymark
downvotes to silently and cowardly conquer that the points hit home.

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@xiko I'm not advocating a fork until it's entirely provable all is lost here and that the largest stakeholders are acting out of their own self interest rather than the interest ofhe network as a whole. The financial gains and loses of the large stakeholders seems to colour the way they operate, if financial gain or loss was removed from the situation I wonder if we would see less focus on propping up of an "old boys" club and a broader show of support for developers in the ecosystem.

I've had it out with the highest stake holders as a mere peasant, pointed out to the community the shit show that goes on and ultimately removed the vail of money knows best that prior was the standard thought process around here.

I do not for a minute believe in revolt without civilized talks and the issue being raised with adequate time to correct or modify the behavior in question. People are inherently slow in shifting beliefs most times and regardless of stake or financial situation that doesn't change mot times.

Things need to be changed around here, or here needs to be taken to another place. But regardless of our personal feelings on things it needs to be looked at objectively and decisions on how to approach this situation with the least amount of stress, drama and cost to the community need be analyzed.

This is a community that has already faced hardships together, we flourish and die by own own collective decision making. Just because a few stake laden individuals have a final say in what gets funded or who is successful here has little to no real world effect on how the community will carry on. Stake is used to control the network, not the users, and ultimately the users are the only real reason this network will ever hold or retain value. When it comes down to it, it's a hearts and minds excersize, not a matter of stake.

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That's pure romanticism.

Here's reality:
THE COMMUNITY is not even needed here except to be the WORKFORCE producing content to feed "curators" aka: AUTO VOTES/BASIC MONEY SCHEME which is the chain in a nutshell.

If people are going to wait, like you said, (paraphrased as:) until the ship fully sinks, then that's not an intelligent survival plan.

Like you said the community forked away before. More accurately, those in power forked away and the community was left with a very limited choice. Anyone who was anyone that didn't make "the right decision" was punished accordingly.

So to wait for that to repeat again is ridiculous.

Having said that though, there's no real alternative. Blocktrades holds the keys to this operation and he sure is slow playing that development... for maximum financial gain of course. Since a greedy fuck he is.

The other greedy fuck.. agrroed has now suddenly become vocal asking for grassroots support since clearly he isn't as in with the rest power players he as he would like to be.

Anyway the writing is on the wall.

There's nothing coming from anyone here that's going to create an uptrend on user uptake. You're right that the money game dominates and that without it people would act more civil.

However this is crypto.. and the money once saw Steem take off in price and gain many users.

The problem was and still is that the platform is too basic and that's why I point out what I did. There's no innovation at system level (like the embarrassing video element).. and the ones running onboarding like OCD are woefully misguided.

HIVE TO THE MOON!
Which MOON?
The one where a person pulls their pants down and greets an observer with their waste removal apparatus.

Who wants to WITNESS that!?

Anyway I think you're a GOOD EGG here I like what you're working on. A few others like peakd are also on a righteous path.. but slow be the development of everything here on Hive. Even Leo are going nowhere really, where once they were moving steadily.

I guess when blocktrades finally gets those core updates finished it will be possibly to actually BUILD something at community level without the few of power players dictating the terms.

If that happens then who cares about the ridiculous ego flex that they play by. It needs to happen before 2022 ends though or else this is just going to be widely realized by how it's already somewhat seen as: that both Steem and Hive aren't the superior "feeless" fast chains that they once claimed as why they're UNDISCOVERED SUPERIOR TECH.

No matter how many times charlatans like taskmaster and theycallhimdan make that claim... it's just not demonstrated objectively.

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I'm not sure I can agree with all your angst fueled outlook here man. While I understand how you may have come to some of these conclusions out of a place feeling singled out or abused here, a lot of what you're inferring here doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense when an unbiased approach or occams razor type mindset is implied.

To say that the community had no options but this or that is silly at the end of the day, nobody forced anyone to come with us or stay there. In fact the way we forked off left it open for anyone with sufficient knowledge of blockchain systems to have made their own, and they did, blurt is an example of this. Anyone who supported Sun Yuchen outright then camew over here expecting free coins is a simpleton turncoat and frankly the sense of entitlement to the HIVE created when the steem chain got cloned, all the while cheering for the illegal takeover doesn't deserve shit, the term lay in the bed you pissed comes to mind.

Blocktrades has more to lose than anyone else, so while I don;t always agree with his way of running things, at the end of the day if this shit fails, he ends up losing more potentially than anyone.. Now while him and his stake do have power far beyond what I personally like to see any one individual have, truth of the matter is he has more to lose than any of us.. So yeah, his decision alone dictating things isn't optimal imo, but to call a guy greedy who stands to lose millions and millions of dollars not to mention an absurd amount of work not only with core dev but with his support of allowing trading of the HIVE coin comes off as either resentment due to his finances and ability to dictate things here.. Or a deep rooted hatred for people being able to effectively over-ride the communities wishes. The whole way this shit is set up is pay to win, or be grandfathered in.. It's exactly how DPOS was designed. Is it flawwed? No, it's functioning as it was intended. Is it fair to others who wish a more democratic or equality based system? Oh fuck no, it sucks shit in that aspect.

Aggroed is one of the biggest use case production outfits on the chain. Does he provide a great amount of value for the chain? Absofuckinlutely! Does his inability to properly budget and route his revenue properly into R&D to make it sustainable so he doesn't have to ask the community for money even after being the top grossing app developer on HIVE? I would say yes. He's not a bad guy, I respect the man for a number of reasons, but his business management and finance planning suck shit for lack of a better term.

LMAO. Ok. Which moon is absolutely hilarious. Thank you for the laugh man. While I agree the sort of blind and stupid cheerleading without actaully addressing the shit that is playing against our moon mission is silly.

Everyone and their dog has an opinion, few if any save a few actually do anything to help the HIVE market cap increase, it boils down to our silly use of inflation to pay for absolute trash posts that no one really cares about, coupled with HIVE lacking the capabilities to really make it competitive against the big dogs..

This however is being worked on both by Blocktrades and Myself in the form of bringing smart contracts and etherium like capabilities. Without that sort of thing we have no chance in hell to actually be a top 100 ranked coin, it is what it is, but I also know that dozens of people are working to fix this on his team, and I myself too wish to bring smart conracts to HIVE, while letting all HIVE users run nodes to make extra money.

I'm not a good egg or a bad egg man, I'm just a stupid fucking Canadian that talks too much, has a problem with eitehr working so much I get sic kor getting too depressed to wake up. I'm not working on all this shit I do to make me rich, if it does, cool.. I', doing what I do because I think we as a community that has been through so much bullshit deserve better and to be prosperous. Who benefits the most from this? The largest stakeholders of course, but on the flip side if this network and it's market cap take a shit dive, those high stakes guys stand to lose more than most people will ever earn in a lifetime.. Always keep that in mind whan you see the higher stake holders acting in ways that might not exactly represent the best interests of the whole community. It's human nature to have some self preference in your own success. Some measure success in financial status, I measure success on how influential and innovative I am.

Ultimately besides being able to almost directly dictate who gets DHF funding, blocktrades really has no more power than you or I do.. Infact his large stake weight and ability to almost singlehandedly dictate things is actually a huge disadvantage compared to someone like myself who, while financially not as stable as blocktrades, have a far greater ability to sway the community mindset and focus. The higher ups a simply put do not control the community in the same way that an influential voice within and for the community has. The power has always resided in the majority and those amongst them who have the balls or stupidity to speak up and point out things that most fear to bring up out of fear of incurring wrath from the high stake holders.

I don't wake up and try to impress the rich guys here, I could give a fuck what they think about me, and the real reason behind that is because I don't need a huge stake to greatly influence things here. My words, mindset and virus like ability to burrow into and change a host or community simply by articulating what many murmur behind closed doors in the open makes the folks like myself the ones who hold the true power here.

Hive power controls the network, not the users. When Hive power is used to rule by force or be a gangster and force folks to bend the knee, the amount of effort it would take to completely dissolve the communities respect and faith in the leadership is trivial. That is the beauty of all of this shit. No one is forcing us to follow the high stake holders and Blocktrades, and the only reason we are all still on here blogging and developing is because we choose to support this network. As long as the high stake holders aren't using their stake to rule by force or fear and don't constantly undermine the idea of a freedom of speech platform the whole financial aspect of it all isn't even important.

Steem and HIVE have never been cutting edge tech. Graphene, the original source this was all built off of was something like 7 years old when it was used to create Steem.. Is it fast? Yes, Is it free? Yes (sorta). Is it anything more than a publicly visible database with a bit of logic and functions to allow it to act as a shitpost generator with a bit of inflation paid out to what I consider mostly hot trash content.. Not really, not at this point.

It ain't perfect, it ain't democracy and it sure as shit isn't even close to it's final form. You gotta ask yourself at the end of the day, why am I here?

I'm here because this community is basically my dysfunctional family, and building stuff on here is more fulfilling than doing some menial labour. Will I ever become a millionaire on here shitposting? Nah.. Will I build some cool shit that never existed before by being able to leverage HIVE core functions allowing us to offer shit that no one else can and maybe make some money doing it? Oh fuck yeah.

The tech is solid albeit dated.. But it's not so much what the chain tech allows right now that is the real selling point for me.. It's the fact that someone like me can leverage the extremely responsive and cheap interaction with this chain to build shit that will basically change the whole fucking crypto ecosystem by means of innovation.

Literally invented the zero risk account as collateral lending service on here, the DHF repayment method to ensure there is always seed money for new projectsand wrote the fucking manual on witness setup back in the day. It used to be about the money for me, I used to njoy the politics around here.. Now I realize neither the money nor the politics really matter.. The power and draw of this place is the community and what that community is capable of. If the way the higher ups guard things or make decisions really really irk you that bad. Say something to them about it as civilized as possible, make a post pointing it all out or radicalizing people against the shit you don't like, or simply read up on how these things work and go launch your own. No one is forcing us to be here, nor are we not allowed to do our own thing. I'm sticking with this network for the people I've fallen in love with in this community, in spite of sometimes getting upset with the decisions of the higher ups.

This chain is controlled by the top 20's and backup witnesses, but they don't control the userbase. And that can be proven in so many ways, both peaceful and extreme.. And that is beautiful. For the record I don't hate any of the high stake holders, even the ones that find it sport to belittle and infer I am just some poor stupid sap. Most of the folks on here are good people, even if sometimes they make decisions I think are short sighted.

User attraction and retention boils down to HIVE exclusive use cases. Nothing more, nothing less. And that means we need more apps that only are here, and more devs building them. Blogging and paying it out of level 0 inflation is fucking dumb as shit and a horrible busineess model and I suspect we see by 2022 a start of a shift to moving away from HIVE / HBD payouts and using them strictlyu as utility tokens, then having the tribes or clans pay out thier own tokens then have HIVE as the gold standard trading pair.. Something like how Hive-Engine works.. But instead of being a somewhat centralized JSON ledger it will facilitate cross chain interoperability allowing all of our tokens and wealth to be freely traded to and from not only our own side chains, but the greater ecosystem like ETH, BTC, etc etc etc.

We're only just now as a developing community starting to look at the fixes for our currently lacking functionality. It's exciting really man.. The community itself will support potentially ground breaking projects, Blocktrades and the other higher ups cannot stop development of things even if they choose not to support it through DHF, it's just much nicer when they do show support.

I guess it boils down to this.. Are you that upset with the guys controlling the chain that you give up on the community? I'm not, and while I've been pissed off a bunch in the past, I now understand it's not the higher up guys doing this to hurt small devs, but rather them trying to protect their stake and years of efforts getting wiped out by some complete falling off of community faith in it's own future. I'd be methodical and scared in my decision making too if I had what boils down to an amount of wealth that would suffice for retirement on the line.

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I like your post man and I agree with much of it. A lot of it is very diplomatic though. That's Hive users in general. Can't risk stepping out of line.

I understand the system better than you might expect. This account is muted but I have other accounts that go back to the early days. So I'm not just shooting from the hip.

blocktramp also goes back a long way, I know who he really is and know that he's made a lot of mulla from all those endeavors. He was after all once granted exclusive trade rights by ned. He extracted and continues to extract.

Coders aren't surgically tied to their product either so if this sinks he doesn't suddenly loose those profits.

Playing the slow play though DOES guarantee maximum profit even if this thing is worth pennies in 2-4 years.

Anyway my RC gets low quickly so I can't write a lot or I then can't go be angry on other posts.. or moon other users! lol

I enjoy observing the development of this place though and I like the fact I'm a black sheep that most dismiss as "a hater."

The ones that then engage in discussion despite all that, then prove that they have ability to look past the weeds and smell the roses.

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Wow @klye is the voice of reason today 😂

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You know the end times are coming when I start making sense.. amirite?

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Well, you certainly get my (very tiny) vote @aggroed as I reckon you probably do as much to functionally enable the broader Hive ecosystem as anyone out there. Without Hive-Engine, who knows if layer two communities and tokens would even exist? And Splinterlands was (for the longest time) the ONLY thing St€€em/Hive had that globally draw people to the Hive ecosystem directly via fiat currency (credit cards) and may still be that...?

Keep on keepin' on!

=^..^=

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You already have my vote and I have you manage to gather the support you want, you should easily be way ahead of where you're right now in the witness rankings.

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I have no idea what is going on, but I can spot someone with hustle. Just like it's beerthirty somewhere, there will always be people who think "asshat" somewhere. Oxygen choices and diplomacy. All the best.

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when ive said marky is toxic nobody listened. now there you go.

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I personally will never vote for you, but I would recommend it to everyone else.

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You have my votes for all of the hard work that you have put into improving hive and the options available for everybody here.

Opinions are one thing but the facts are simple. You and yaba have build more for the community than almost anybody else here. When I vote for a witness it is for the people that add to hive instead of take away from it.

Keep up the good work and can't wait to see what the team is working on next.

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I've been voting for you for years, and don't vote for that many folks above you in the rankings honestly. I guess I can see about getting more folks to proxy their vote to me :-P

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Thanks for the work you do for the HIVE ecosystem!

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You do bring some good stuff to the chain. there is no doubt!

It would be more accurate to say registered over 110K HIVE accounts through our services though rather than infer those are all unique humans behind the accounts. Not saying majority isn't unique users.. But I know that a number of farming bot accounts run by one person are included in this number.

Just figured I'd put that out there.. As bad ass as bringing 110K users in to HIVE sounds if I had to guess it would be surprising if that 110K accounts represented 10,000 actual users perhaps all the way up to 50,000.. Whish still, is nothing to be scoffed at!

Keep at err aggroed.

I think I'm already voting your witness, will go check to make sure

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Wait. Steem-engine is still up?

I can't find that anywhere?

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As an NFT Showroom artist, you have my vote -- and thank you for your hard work!

Let me alert our alien overlord at Alien Art Hive, @juliakponsford, that we need to pay attention to this ...

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I already vote for agg not much I can do lol!

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Yes, but do the rest of the people using NFT Showroom know we might need to consider giving some support here?

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You already had my vote a long time ago and getting a vote from me isn't easy. That is nice list of accomplishments you have here on the HIVE network. I'm surprised you aren't voted in the top 10 with all the things you do for HIVE.

Have you considered running a witness for Splinterlands?

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I give you crap from time to time... but I consistently vote on your witness... and I like some of your projects a lot and wish them success and hope you'll consider polishing them up. And you communicate with users and it's good to not have a top 20 full of only developers.

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return the cut tokens to the Hive-Engine, let the Hive tokens be traded on the Steem-Engine and vice versa

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Hi aggroed, I have $2500 stuck in hive engine and my hive signer password is not working. Anyway I can change it?

Thanks in advance.

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