RE: Splinterlands Town Hall Summary - April 25th, 2022 - 4PM Eastern!
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"You can't have a decentralized game and a centralized authority determing who can play, and who can't"
sorry but i think this is hypocritical, i think the developer team has massive bots themselves and their friends too and that's why they don't want to ban it. because this central not central argument doesn't work anymore, after all i'm banned from renting out my own nft my card when i played it, this contradicts everything blockchain games stand for!
you can say only one person can use it in 24 hours ok accept their battlefield their rules, but to determine whether I rent my property or not is just a step too far, this is a greater intrusion than the bot ban, because as I said you can just say bots no access to the battlefield, legitimate rule!
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It sounds like a good point and I would like to agree with the premise of the quote. But you are right, they ban people for other things, so it is kind of a hollow sentiment.
My friend started playing and was banned a few days later. The reason was something about 'suspicious use of DEC' which was nonsense... he had literally done nothing but buy spellbook, a couple thousand credits and play a few dozen games. He had to go through customer support to get back into the game.
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What the hell are you talking about. This should be impossible. How do you get banned on blockchain??? You'll have to show some evidence.
He wasn't banned from blockchain... he was banned from playing Splinterlands. There is a difference.
If someone gets banned, it is because they violated the Terms of Service. If it was DEC related, I'm going to guess he had bought one of his own cards from the market, with credits, in order to convert the credits to DEC. Our system can detect these type of transactions and we ban if caught.
This was like 6 or 7 months ago. He had just started playing, he didn't sell any of his cards (to buy them himself.) He still has all of them now even though he hasn't played for months. He did appeal and get restored also because he did nothing wrong. I'm sure it was a mistake.
However, the point still remains. The quote rings hollow if people are getting banned for anything. Bots could just as easily be listed as against terms of service, detected, and banned like anything else. So there obviously is a centralized authority determining who can and cannot play when it comes to certain criteria, but not bots.
Splinterlands ban players from using Splinterlands site and nothing more, you can move your assets/tokes using others hive dapps. In the same way, when they ban an account is because they violated the TOS in some way, mostly is due selling/renting cards between owned accounts to ëxchange"credits to DEC or doing paypal chargebacks, for example. However, everyone can appeal a ban and they will check it out
Exactly, they ban for other stuff but not Bots, the Truth Is that they dont want to piss off whales with thousands of bots
The issue is that they ban from their website (UI interface) but they do not ban from the game/blockchain. They could ban the bots from the website but if the bots don't interact with the site (which to my knowledge they don't), that wouldn't do any good.
I would imagine it is not just a ban from the website ui. It is most likely a server API. The game isn't played just by blockchain transactions. Whether the bot is using the website or not, it is going through the Splinterlands servers. Think about when the game goes down for maintenance and is inaccessible, they aren't bringing the entire blockchain down, just the game. A ban essentially does this, isolated to an account. So if they actually detect botting from an account and wanted to ban it, they definitely could. They just don't want to.
Yes, since they are the only ones processing the custom transaction related to Splinterlands from the Hive blockchain they could block them.
I mean to clarify and say currently the way they ban is by not allowing banned users to access the official Splinterlands website.
I don't believe they have ever banned someone from the API. Even though from a technological standpoint they could, I don't believe they do that and it would be a large change in the way they operate/enforce policy if they did.
Is there a source that actually confirms this? Seems... unlikely to be done that way from a technical standpoint. As a software engineer, it makes zero sense to me that they would ban an account from a website ui and not just interacting with the server as a whole.
I agree it is hypocritical.... Its pretty simple IMO, every account must have ID verified... boom no more bot issues. Take it one step further, allow only a certain amount of accounts per verified ID, that allows people to have a maximum amount of accounts pulling rewards and is more fair for everyone involved. This will stop poeple who are merely trying to drain the rewards from the system.
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Let's just be real the game is unfair at this point it's like we are playing against cheaters. Aggroed is just saying stuff to not upset the bot farms. Hopefully, he isn't that blind as not to know that his words are complete bullshit.
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