RE: SPS Governance Proposal - Hire Clayboyn as DAO Community and Project Manager

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TL;DR: LOL no 😂 This proposal is wrong on so many levels that's incredible, but if I had only ONE question :

Why spending a whooping 60k for social media management when we can hire 1.5 full time developers for the same amount of money ?

Actually I have a bunch of other questions and remarks:

1/ The social media management was not especially amazing until now , just functional I would say. So why hiring the same person instead of fresh blood with fresh ideas ? Like an expert in the domain for example (and especially for 60k ... )

2/ 60 000 USD per year is a huge amount of money, something you only get at fairly high level positions in rich countries, that does not seems a good fit for the job as it is described here. I mean there are much more valuables ways to spend 60k for the game (like hiring more full time devs for actually delivering ... )

3/ Either SPL ask DAO for funding (or a loan!) and they hire the guy they want, we trust you guys, or there should be an official job description, job posting and reviewing where the community can participate. Otherwise it sends the wrong signal (nepotism and corruption), and I won't teach you anything by telling you that the success of crypto projets is all about trust.

4/ Why don't we start agreeing to put that DAO money to work and then hire people with that APR money ?

5/ I am repeating the same thing over and over, but SPL need first content and then promotion. I would gladly approve a proposal to hire a senior game developer for 60k ! The problem is not money but return on investment, and right now the game needs to deliver and build trust.

I have other comments in mind but I will stop for now, and I would like to say that there is nothing personal against anyone, just my thoughts.



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The DAO´s social media would be distinct to the Splinterlands ones, no?

Similarly, the dao shouldn't be hiring people to work on the game.

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Alright, but in this case I do not see the point of pushing the DAO's social media. All members of the DAO are on SPL and Hive and it is not very interesting for other people.

Also, the SPL team specifically said that they would need to be hired by the DAO to perform some development work.
So let's wait and see but I think the DAO will be asked for funding game development in the near futur, like the Rebellion system maybe.

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Why does the DAO need a social media manager right now? Is this position even justified?

The main driver of value to the DAO right now is the game. If they are separate there is zero reason for the DAO to have one right now.

This smells like the Splinterlands company is still struggling and trying to further cut costs via passing on its problems to the DAO.

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It's come back from the community feedback I've gotten that it's not worth risking the DAO money to collect some APR. While that was my thought at first to get that money working and generating some flow I can see how it would have risks. However on that same level I'm thinking if the DAO ends up holding 10 million bucks worth of stuff that 10% 1 million invested into something like USDC earning 5% would be worth it as that would pretty much cover something like the above is being proposed or at least start building value into the SPS token etc. such as a buy back and burn of SPS. It just feels like we keep exiting money OUT of the game instead of back into asset values which ultimatly is what many people care about.

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Thanks for the info, I did not know it was carefully considered already.
But I totally share your feeling, it feels like a waste of opportunity to bring more value to the game and DAO members.

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Give clayboyn a change. The SPS can fire him anytime as part of the proposal if he doesn't deliver. 60000 USDT is a lot, I agree, but he has a lot of experience already. But there should be more transparency in the future. clayboyn should report to SPS DAO stakeholders in the future and tell them why and what he is doing and what benefits the SPS DAO has from his work.

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Well, I have nothing against Clayboyn, it is really not personal as I do not know him. Actually, because he was recommended by Matt I believe he is indeed a good choice for the job.

But I am not convinced this is the best investment. As I said, I would happily approve a proposal to hire developers as the game is in dire need for basic features such as a nice and modern android/iOS app.

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I agree with a lot of this and you aren't even touching on some of my biggest fears, violating US employment and tax laws.

We are treating him like a contractor here but is he really a contractor based on the type and condition of his work? Is the DAO somehow going to start issuing 1099s? As the DAO is community owned, do we as SPS holders now have business expenses which will end up on tax returns.

I really don't want to go down this route of being an employer.

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