RE: SPS Proposal: Give Summoners a 3X Production Point Bonus when assigned to work on land

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I can not support this.

  1. I do not wish to change a published whitepaper. This opens a floodgate that brings uncertainity.

  2. Matt verbally mentioned in the previous townhall, and I quote: "Summoners already enjoy higher prices and advantages"

What has changed?

Those multipliers proposed is absolutely outrageous! As small may be considered, and definitely a big NO with those multipliers.

I will DV this at 100%.

I thought the 'council' will do better in discussing with the community and has the 'pulse' of the community. I am dissapointed.



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I thought the 'council' will do better in discussing with the community and has the 'pulse' of the community. I am dissapointed.

I totally get that you were hoping for better communication and are feeling let down by the council's proposal. But, I don't necessarily agree that just because the council is supposed to be in touch with the community, that they will always have proposals that everyone agrees with.

From what I can see, the council did the right thing by listening to the concerns of many in the Splinterlands community (as evidenced by concerns I heard raised by many during the recent town hall) and coming up with a proposal for everyone to vote on. And even if the community ends up voting no, that's still a win for the governance process because it means that the community has a voice in deciding the direction of Splinterlands.

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yes, these are my thoughts exactly. I care that we have the vote so that the community can feel they had their concerns addressed. If this doesn't pass, then that's the will of the community and that's great! To me its a big win and no one should be able to throw salt at the DEVs after this vote on this issue.

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I think I agree.

I am only saying, why it need to be a proposal post immediately. Why can't council just write this as a post. Just a post to have a discussion, as opposed to a proposal. But if it is a proposal, that is fine too. I am expressing my view.

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I think there's some value in doing it as a proposal personally. It forces everyone to make a decision/clear stance.

Sometimes where the community stands on something is unclear until it's put to a stake weighted vote.

This kind of proposal clears things up very quick so we can see if it's actually a priority for the community or not. If it's just a discussion, we definitely get glimpses into the different arguments, but don't necessarily have as strong an understanding as when folks actually vote.

With a proposal we get a few benefits:

  1. We see if it's something the community cares about enough to even get a quorum met on the vote.
  2. We see if the community is strongly one way or the other on an issue.
  3. We still get the opportunity to discuss the idea and are encouraged to do so somewhat quickly because there's a built in deadline for the discussion.

I do think it's fair that there's likely a balance for what should or shouldn't be a proposal, and I'm not sure where that line is... but on this one, there was clear frustration voiced by many in the community about how Summoners didn't have extra value in Land and this let's us see how many in the community feel strongly about it or not.

On the matter at hand... I think I'm with you and am voting against this. I agree with @yabapmatt 's assessment that Summoners do not need extra benefit on land and would rather not have their price be artificially driven up further with no clear reason to do so in land. Especially because it will make them harder to acquire for the game where they DO serve a big purpose already.

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I think there's some value in doing it as a proposal personally. It forces everyone to make a decision/clear stance. Sometimes where the community stands on something is unclear until it's put to a stake weighted vote.

Agree. You never know what the silent majority is thinking and usually they only make themselves known during a vote.

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Its your choice to DV 100%.

I'm sorry you didn't like that the council brought this to a vote. Not everything is black and white in the community and there are people with passion on both sides of all issues.

I personally am thrilled that it was brought to a vote so we can move on. The alternative is that a lot of players will feel they were screwed and never got a chance to be heard. Now everyone will be heard, including you AZ. (which I fully support you being heard too!) :)

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No problem, Dave. I have no issues with discussion. I feel the change is too soon, without knowing any implication of the original. I have always said one thing, that we are making too many changes too fast without understanding the impact. I wish we slow it down a bit. That's all.

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That's fair, and I am happy to have you weigh in with your thoughts and SPS voting power too!

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Agreed, I'd be for summoners adding some small perk. I was thinking as a staked power source similar to what Runi provides. There are also plenty of other perks that could be added later (such as the speeding up of building, etc.). It would be good to have something since 'summoners being valuable on land' was the narrative for so long. There are only a small number of summoners that aren't particularly useful for regular play. I think it would be enough if such a future perk was signaled to all the people who stocked up on summoners.

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