Splinterlands to utilize Chaos Legion packs for deck creation on the NFTy Arcade platform

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Splinterlands is planning to reserve 500k of the remaining Chaos Legion booster packs to create free to use decks of cards to lend out to new players through the NFTy Arcade Gateway platform.

The NFTy Arcade Gateway platform has proven to be a fantastic tool for getting new players into the game. By providing the new players with a strong set of starting assets they need to be competitive it makes players just starting their journey with Splinterlands more likely to convert into long-term players.

The data we’ve been looking at shows that players who come in through the NFTy Arcade Gateway platform stay around much longer and purchase far more packs and cards on the market, on average, than players who come in through any other means. Splinterlands VP of sales, @16bit, recently wrote a great piece on the platform and how it can help reduce the barrier to entry for new players, which you can read here: https://peakd.com/splinterlands/@jmonahan/market-making-via-gamer-enablement-with-nfty-arcade.

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The current problem is that NFTy Arcade doesn’t have enough decks available for the amount of new players they are trying to bring in, and they have been hesitating to reach out to more communities until they have more decks available for them to use.

We feel that this is a great opportunity to take Chaos Legion packs, which would be otherwise burned, and use them to create decks that can be listed on the NFTy Arcade platform and made available for new players, which NFTy Arcade actively recruits, to use at no up-front cost. To date, this approach appears to give the strongest start to new players that we've found.

Splinterlands promises to never sell any of these cards, and all rewards that Splinterlands earns from renting out these decks will be burned or used for later promotions for players.

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Please note that the NFTy Arcade platform has a strict no-bot policy for its services, which allows us to ensure that all of these decks will go to real new players around the world.

We anticipate these packs will lead to the creation of roughly one thousand playable decks.

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We plan to create mostly Bronze and Silver level decks with these packs, as that is what is most needed to get new players into the game, and we don’t want to compete with other players renting out higher level decks through the NFTy Arcade platform since that is where most of the earnings potential is.

The gold cards received from the packs are planned to be used to make some Gold Foil decks that NFTy Arcade can use as prizes or extra incentives that players can win or earn for a period of time through contests, tournaments, or other methods.

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The NFTy Arcade Gateway platform has proven to be one of the most effective ways to bring new players into the game and get them to stick around and contribute to the ecosystem, and as we said above, we see this as a fantastic opportunity to take cards that would otherwise have been burned and put them to good use without effectively extracting value out of the system.

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Splinterlands will create dedicated account(s) to house these cards so players will be able to track the progress of the account and of the lenders who utilize this promotion.

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I don't get it. You simply take 500k packs and hand them to NFTy, because NFTy "doesn't have enough decks available"?

Like, first of all, these packs are not burned, but rather opened. Then, instead of renting my cards, people will use NFTy decks, which is at least a double-hit on my investment.

Or will NFTy somehow pay/compensate? How many players are converting? I see the numbers are better when people come in via NFTy, but will it compensate for what current players will lose?

This really caught me by surprise, coming out of nowehere.

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sounds like you don't play splinterlands for fun :)

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Ah, last fun part is Brawls. Ranked is bot only, tournaments more or less the same. But I love playing brawls. However, it's just one part of the game. There's money in it as well. Glad you either don't have to care about a tens of thousands of dollars investment - or we're talking different bags.

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if you have been playing and looking at the data, the bots are actually kinda gone since the soulbound cards. They might come back but so far it's a different experience

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There are people with good decks using bots instead of playing and I have a very low opinion of these people.

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Does anyone?

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probably not purely, but I have picked it up again after 2 months and I actually enjoy playing it

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You are absolutely right and in addition the point is that Splinterlands don't stick to the results of their own proposal.

By the way: The new soulbounded Reward-Cards are very bad for new customers as they don't have this cards and can neither buy nor rent them, so why they should join a game where it exist a distortion of competition who prefer the player who play this game since a longer time ?

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Wait a second... did not all SPS-holders voted for burning packs? - What a genius and trustworthy move. Seriously, hope that gets some more context and clarification by the SL team.

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If Nfty thinks it can bring in an extra 1000 real players that would be great and worth it. I realize that some look at our user numbers and think we are doing great but IMO we maybe have 7k real players if that so adding over 10% of that number sounds like a good trade off for a slight increase in card supply opposed to just burning them.

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I wouldnt mind seeing the rewards SPL gets being put into the dao instead of burning but I get that its a SPL proposal and not a DAO proposal so if yall chose to do that it would be out of the kindness of yalls hearts, which is super possible from my past experiences.

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Sorry. is this a joke? I guess it has to be a joke. Gifting nearly 3.5% of all CHAOS packs to somebody while all other players had to pay for the packs? This really cant be serious. Why should I or anybody else in the future buy any packs or cards, knowing that SL company is going to give them out for free whenever they want - diluting value of cards in their sole discretion. Particularly in case of CHAOS this is a massive breach of trust, since we votet on burning of the packs and gave it a go just because everybody understood that there are way too many CHAOS on the market.... and now you are planning to push further CHAOS on the market for free? Dear god, maybe someone can sign up for economics 101

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NFTy IS NOT FREE

It would be helpful if you actually read the article and learned how the system works before flaming the team. Packs are NOT being "given away" they are being opened by the SPL team, kept on SPL team accounts, and delegated to NFTy players on a reward sharing basis. SPL will receive a portion of ALL rewards earned in this manner, and the cards will NEVER be sold, as specifically outlined in this post. NFTy is not free. NFTy is not getting the cards. NFTy is just a middleman connecting cards with players. Your anger is misplaced and uninformed. Are there potential problems and unintended consequences? Always. Is it going to "push further CHAOS on the market for free?" Absolutely not. Nothing is free. Nothing is going on the market. If this is Simsahas posting, as I suspect, you are a finalist for the Community Leader position- I certainly hope you do your research in the future before spouting such inflammatory nonsense, and maybe do so from your own account!

NFTy IS NOT FREE

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How can the DAO's vote be ignored on this? Seems like a bad move something we wanted is already being undermined...

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In theory, we should have voted on this proposal just like all the other proposals that have been voted on and will be voted on in the future.

Besides, why would we give 500k packs to a third company that creates decks to make money on them?
It seems really strange to me. Maybe we misunderstood, in any case if these packs were bought by NFTYs arcade would be a fair thing in my opinion!

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They arent giving them to Nfty. SPL the company will be opening them (honestly they are their packs until someone buys them) and creating decks for the Nfty site. SPL will own the cards forever so the only real hit to anyone is the jump in card supply but that wont be a huge problem because they will be combining almost all the cards opened and it will be driving real new players, which is something SPL sorely needs.

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They arent giving them to Nfty. SPL the company will be opening them (honestly they are their packs until someone buys them) and creating decks for the Nfty site. SPL will own the cards forever

That would be OK, I did not understand this passage. It was probably my mistake, thanks for the clarification :)

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no worries <3 Im very happy I could help for once :)

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thanks again, probably others below in the comments also misunderstood lol

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LMAO. ALL THAT IS LEFT OF YOU GUYS IS A FUCKING JOKE!
You knew that you would lose the vote, so you didn't put this up for vote🤣🤣🤣 and just decided over our heads that we will have another 3.5% card inflation even though investors don't fukcing want it. THEY VOTED TO BURN THIS SHIT.
You have broken too many promises by now to have any credibility left.

EDIT: You're saying now that these cards won't hit the market and will be burned, but nobody is going to believe it. If you feel different about it in a few months, you're just gonna change that. You have shown several times, that you don't care about what you promised in the past. You can't be trusted.

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I'd vote for it, in a heartbeat. If you're bitter. See ya.

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and how much money have you poured into this game believing what they've promised?

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More than what is reasonable, friend. I've been here since they started the game, and seen the team create something from nothing. Whatever poor decisions you've seen, I've seen more than enough good ones to know we're on the right track overall. The fact this game is still functioning and card values haven't gone to zero in this ongoing bear mkt is testament to having one of the best houses in a bad neighborhood. The leadership team that got us here has done a great job in steering the ship accordingly.

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I love the concept of NFTY, I've delegated a decent deck to them to help them attract players. I earn a little less than I normally would, but I'm happy to have a new player be excited to play the game.

For that reason, I like to the see creativity of the SPL team and happy they are using their assets to attract more HUMAN players. I hope they do this with Rebellion as well.

I do understand why people are upset, because 1) this does seem to negate the purpose of the prior DAO vote to burn the packs and 2) it might compete with the smaller rentals to some extent.

But since the team has to run a business, then using THEIR packs in this way to grow is ok with me. I will lose a little rental income, but I'd be thrilled to see NFTY bring in 1000 new players to the ecosystem.

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Hi, can you get clarification from the team that this will not happen to Riftwatchers packs? I bought a lot of Riftwatchers cards recently and am worried now.

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The team doesnt technically own the RW packs so they wouldnt do anything like this with them without a DAO vote. Since sales from CL go to the SPL team they can do whatever they want with the packs. Technically if they used 2 million of Company funds to buy the packs the money would just go back to them so I honestly dont see the issue. Aggy has said that if this experiment doesnt work they will burn all the decks so no harm no foul IMO. Hope this helps <3

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This would be impossible for the Team to do. Since the DAO owned the 3 million pack, it would have to vote on that as a DAO. I see no indication that will happen.

But we should definitely get the team to clarify to ease everyone's concerns.

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Yes, I would like a clarification in writing. Thank you. That it MUST go through a DAO vote if it were to be considered.

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I don't know if you listened to the AMA but I did ask the question. Aggy clearly confirmed RFW packs are not the teams to decide, instead they would require a DAO vote to pass something like this. So if you want to save and record it for your records, it is around the 2 hrs mark of the video +/- 10 min ...

I believe he answered it exactly to your liking, but of course its not written, so I encourage you to make a copy/save the replay.

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  1. This hurts rental markets, devaluing CL decks further

  2. This is a handout to a third party which goes against business principles. Big Govt does handouts

  3. This undermines a prior DAO vote on pack burning.

These are facts. None looks good on paper.

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100%

I don't get this decision..

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Hey AZ... On two of the three we definitely disagree.

  1. None of these NFTY players use the rental markets at the current time. Plus anyone using the rental market would be foolish to give up 50% of their earnings and all their earned packs to rent a particular card by renting a whole deck. On top of that, these decks are limited to mostly Bronze, which is not where most human players play.

  2. They aren't "giving" the cards to NFTy. They are delegating the cards to NFTy. The amount of earnings that NFTy will get from these decks will be miniscule compared to the dev work they have put in to build their platform. I think they take 5% of the 50% of the SPS earned, or 2.5% of the total earnings in Bronze. That is a very effective ad spend to target new players, and if it doesn't work, then SPL will burn the cards.

  3. This I understand and agree is the case.

Also the rental markets have already been hurt by the loss of the low level bot farms. As a large renter myself, I'm aware the bots rent the majority of the low level cards. This is actually pro-rental market in that it is attempting to target new players to the game. New human players will rent cards as they a) learn the game and b) build their own decks.

While it will be awhile before the humans replace the hoard of lost bots, this program is pro-human player and is a step in the right direction in my opinion

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  • I understand the NFTY players do not use the rental market. However, in a free market scenario, as a 3rd party, NFTY could have used the rental market as an entity. Yes, that would have add cost to their bottom line. However, that would have proped rental market higher. I understand the human player aspects.

  • Yes, they are delegating cards. For free. It is still a handout. Without it, they would have done it via point 1.

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I believe their model is as a "connector" of two parties. They have been around for awhile and had some small success with getting players that own the decks to delegate to players looking to play the decks.

For instance, @leveluplifeph is one that has been a big delegator with 50 decks he's built and attracted new players.

Their constraints were based on the amount of decks that people delegated, not on finding new players to play those decks. But as a middleman, they would never have used the rental market to get the cards and make the decks themselves. Its just not their model.

That's why SPL decided to do this, @aggroed felt it was worth a shot to see if they could leverage this model in hundreds (if not thousands) of new players.

If it works, then it will be a new outlet for all card owners to "earn" on in the future. If it doesn't work, then they burn the cards as intended. I believe the impact on the rental market is insignificant though either way, because these cards will be used by players that wouldn't exist otherwise.

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Yes, it is an executive decision. I am fine with it. As I don't have any responsibility :)

If this is a success, chances are we can all benefit somewhat (long shot in my opinion)

If this is a failure, the executives own it.

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I completely agree with all these points AZ!!!

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Absolutely correct.
in addition I really think if splinterlands want get new player.
The new soulbounded reward cards with the possibility to use not only this reward card but also one of the 32 gladius cards speak IMO not for the idea to generate new player.
What is the fun experience to get beaten cause your opponent has cards you cannot use cause you can neither buy nor rent them ?

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The question is why do proposals if Splinterlands won't stick to the results ?

I mean this NFT Arcade can buy this 500k packs in the shop if they want to have them.

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NFTY does not own the packs, the SPL team does. Nothing changes in that regard.

The team has just decided to experiment to see if this will bring in new players and help us grow the game. If it works then great. If not, then they will burn all the cards.

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I am just curious why somebody should join this game new, as their will be a massive distortion of competition.

Before they add the new 43 reward cards every new player could buy or rent ALL cards he want and has the same chances like a player who play the game for vears, it was just base on skill (if both has all cards), but now Splinterlands changed this, a new player has no chance to buy or rent this 43 reward cards and he cannot use the 32 gladiator cards, so he is disadvantaged, especially as the ability bloodlust is quite usefull in many rulesets and from the "normal" cards only a few have it.

You really think it is a fun experience to be beaten by "old" players cause they have cards you don't own, you cannot buy or rent ?

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@udow I don't know if you are just sitting around thinking of things that could go wrong or not, but that's the most ridiculous thing ever.

Players can get cards by playing, the more people play, the more cards they get. If someone starts in the future, then of course they wouldn't have played as much as someone that has played for a long time.

People aren't guaranteed to compete at the top the minute they enter the game. But everyone can compete at some level because there are various levels of people entering the game all the time.

And I think the soulbound rewards are incredible because they are something people have to play to earn them. If you want something (which I do), then its definitely fun to get it. Those that are truly competitive will play and earn them the old fashioned way (with sweat). No long will people get an advantage by just buying their way in regarding all the soulbound cards (reward and glad cards).

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But you understand the point that a new player have no chance to have this cards at the start ?

If you than consider that Bloodlust is much stronger in lower leagues than in higher you see that a new player has a huge disadvantage.

Just think if bloodlust add +1 to all stats it means at a max-level card to add to an attack f.e. 33% when increasing them from 3 to 4 but 100% when increasing them from 1 to 2 at level 1 or 25% when increasing the life from 4 to 5 at max-level but 50% when increasing the life from 2 to 3 at level 1.
(When you ask from where I have this states, I have just took states of the Cutter Brieze as an example).

Maybe I just can ask you a question: Would you like with your car to take part in a formula 1 racing ? Would this be fun for you ?

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yes I understand, the glad cards are strong. That's why players should want to join a guild and start earning them! That's the point.

And regarding your question, yes of course I would like for ME to have my car be so good I could enter it in formula 1 racing. But I'm old enough to know that it will never do that.

Its ok though, that doesn't mean I don't like having my car. It does what I want it to do, and I don't want to spend the money to make it able to compete as a formula 1 racing car.

So your question is a perfect example actually. Some people want a formula one racing car and are willing to spend the money on it, and some people don't. Same with the game. Some people want to play with what they have and enjoy the cards they have, and others want to have every card and are willing to do what needs to be done (ie. either invest money or time)

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okay I think we go too far away from the main point, so maybe just answer my question:

Why should a new customer start a game where he know that from 510 existing cards 75 cards are unavailable for him but available for old players ?

I mean maybe somebody who have ambitions, want invest a lot of money and try to compete with the top-players for the leaderboard, before the lunch of this new reward cards it was possible he could buy or rent every card he want and play with full deck, now he can't.

So why he should under this circumstances play splinterlands and not just choice another game where new players has no disadvantages at the start (if they are ready to spent or invest money) ?

I mean it is not so that I am strong against soulbounded cards, it is okay in brawls and I could imagine to add a separate league where you can use this soulbounded cards BUT: It is not in this way, you can use this soulbounded cards in every ranked battle and in the most tournaments (at least when the tournaments are switched to sets what is only a question from some days).

I mean it is IMO clear, when you take part in a bike race you should come with a bike and not with your car, but it doesn't mean that their cannot be car races. So splinterlands could just create a third league where you can use this soulbounded cards, so that you could choice if you want play in a league with or without soulbounded cards.

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If he starts playing when the cards are being earned in ranked play then he will get them on his own like everyone else that plays.

If he starts play after the cards do out of print, he WILL be able to buy them.

So either way a player can get them if they work hard enough or spend enough when they go out of print. I don't think the cards are even 1 season old yet. So that is not even 1% of the total time they will have to earn these.

I can't think of anything more fair myself, and the fact that you and I want these is validation that its good to play and earn them each day. That's what we all should want, people to be excited about playing every day.

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ok you are right, at the moment it is no big deal when a "newbie" starts, as the other player also don't have much of this rewards cards cause time to collect was not much.

But what will be in 3 or 6 monthes when the "old" player had a lot of time to collect the reward cards ?

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You wore me out... Remember that not everyone will get the exact chances in anything in life. People start when they start and will recognize if they come in halfway into a project, that they participate and will get their chance to be there at the start on the next time a new set drops.

But having said that, we can disagree. I appreciate the dialogue but I have been swamped and unable to keep replying back to each point to you. But much respect Udow, you are a fair debater and ask your questions with a very objective view.

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I understand that not everyone will get the same chances, we need not to speak about "exact" because the random determination where you are born (and in what family) can be such a huge advantage (or disadvantage) in life that you can never speak from equal chances.

Also at Splinterlands from the first day on their was no equal chances, the player who has more money can buy more packs, has better cards at higher level and a hug advantage before other players who has less money, but this point is compansated now with the rental market.

So far so good, but now it comes with a change 75 cards into the play. 32 from this card exist since a long time and it was always told before that they are only for brawls, with no other usecase.

Now close your eyes and imagine that you are new to this game, maybe you have enough money and want buy yourself a competitive deck to fight for the leaderboard, but you find out that this 75 cards you cannot buy, you can also not rent and you also find out that exactly in high-Mana-Battles this cards are really essentiell to get a top position in leaderboard.

What you do now ?

OK you can say: Next year comes the new release I will just play collect and than all will be fine.
But maybe you also say: " If this guys here don't want me and my money than I will just look for another game" and a new customer is lost cause of a bad user experience.

In the future maybe it will be even worse with the land expansion with more soulbounded ressources, in the end we will have just a closed society, cause everybody who come new to the game will just very quick see that he won't have any chance to compete with others - Is this your imagine from the future ?

What I also don't understand (correct me if I am wrong) is that this new set of reward cards was just released from splinterlands without any discussion or was their a post or a proposal I have missed where it was a discussion if this is a good idea or not ?

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Of course I want new people to come in and play, and earn their way over time to get better and better. I know lots of people that came in after me that are doing well, and I have even brought some of my relatives from the Philippines in for the last few years. Everyone grows at their own pace.

You seem like a very competitive person @udow and want to be at the top. That's a great quality. Keep it. Just remember though that not everyone were like you. No game can exists if only the top players find it fun.

Having said that, I think they are making changes and focusing on making a better user experience. I have been one of the players that has been very vocal about this for a long time. I believe you will see improvements as we go, and getting many of the bot farms to leave is a major step in the right direction. But there has to be more.

Yes they did tell us about the new reward cards, I'm not sure if it was in a AMA/Town Hall or via a post, but I definitely knew they were coming and many players debated them (good and bad) for many weeks before they were released.

Have a great weekend Udow and thanks as always for a nice conversation.

ps... thanks for the beer, that's very nice of you!

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Sorry but you don't get my point, probably I explained it not good enough, so let's compare with chess.

I told you that I am a chessplayer, but when I play a match with Magnus Carlsen I will sure loose this match cause of his ability and experience - The chance that I take a draw (not to speak from winning) is vanishingly small, so it is okay. I would have all chances against him and cause of my incapability I lost the game.

But now imagine (to compare with splinterlands) that he play with the Knights with bloodlust who transfer to a queen after they beat something at the chessboard but I play only with regular Knights.

Also if the result would be probably the same: I will loose the game, I would not like the second variant and if he ask me for a second match in the first case I would accept immediately but in the second case I would refuse.

Maybe you get now the point, it is not that I need to be competitive with others, if they are better, have better skills it is okay if they win, but not if they win cause they have the bloodlust-knight and I must play with the normal knight.

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!beer

(n I try it again, before I was out of beer as you are limited how often you can call it in 24 hours :-) )

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Complete backtrack on what was voted for by the DAO...

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sounds good! Although this should have been a proposal

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I think it's a great idea, and if it's successful, it can also be applied to future editions of Splinterlands cards

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This is a disturbing news, as it will blow the market for deck renting with very cheep options (zero cost for those 500k packs). The vote of the community to burn those unsold packs was to removed them from the play, as we are facing a situation with many cards available, and little players interested in buying or renting those cards. This news will hit (again) on the existing players. Not good...

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why bothering making any more promises or even giving statements of any kind if you'll change what you do and say on a whim at any given time.

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Wow .. this is a big news for us

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So long term, this could be a good way for the DAO to make $.

Simple approach could be that all $ earned from this goes to DAO and then DAO buys rebellion packs with profits - rents to NFT arcade etc etc.

Prefer to compete against the DAO out in the battlefield rather then in SPS staking rewards! 🤣 (old joke)

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The DAO is not getting anything from this AFAIK. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

It's a zero sum game. If the DAO were to start buying and renting out cards then they would be competing with people who buy cards to rent out. You don't create FOMO for cards by increasing supply. Even if they don't sell the cards, it affects the market. The card rental market is connected to people buying cards for speculation thinking they can rent it out to recoup their "investment".

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I think actually fixing or improving the new player experience before trying to onboard a bunch of new "people" would be a better idea but what do I know

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  1. While i understand why it doesn't have to be a proposal... I would have voted for it anyway I think it would have passed pretty nicely.

  2. Seems most complaints are just that the expectations of one vote weren't altered by the consequences of new vote.

  3. Bigger holders all appreciate seeing new players come into the game even though we're the ones that may also be impacted by less rentals.

  4. However those getting chaos legion cards in these decks will also need REWARD and UNTAMED and even some PROMO or WILD cards ... so perhaps 1000 new real users will be renting.

  5. If we trust their data the new users who try their service statistically have a good rate of long term connection to the game which hopefully leads to an increase of users and buyers... on this i guess it's trust oriented based on their data.

A couple things that could increase acceptance

  • Splinterland Team earnings could go to DAO
  • Burn the cards and put DEC in the dao if the experiment doesn't work out
  • Do a community proposal ... I think it would pass
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Do a community proposal ... I think it would pass

Yes, and if they do have one, make it an official proposal not a pre-proposal.

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Whats disturbing about this to me is that the team can mint any number packs they want. We buy them and if we don't buy them all they have free reign to take the ones the community decided weren't needed and use them to remove the demand for the ones we did buy by offering them as ghost cards with rewards 2.0.

I mean, its not a winning proposition for anyone but here we are. I've heard NFTy arcade on the townhalls making it sound like they were hurting for high level cards. Plenty of us can use our cards to make low level decks. God know many of us have eough of them. SO why not communicate that NFTy arcade needs low level decks and let the people who've already bought assets from the team fill the demand?

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The more I think of this deal, the more it irks me. It doesn't matter if they don't sell the cards, it's just unfair to people who actually buy packs with their own money to play. I've spent several thousand dollars on CHAOS packs and individual cards and it's going to be iffy whether I do that with Rebellion.

I mean imagine Apple lending out free Iphones to people while you had to buy yours. Why can't they just let the free market free market?

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Yeah. Its pretty stupid. And I keep seeing people talking about these card packs like they are physical inventory the team had to spend money to print.

If this is mildly successful are they going to just mint an extra 10 million rebellion packs just for this purpose next time and tell everyone how they paid to make those 10 million extra packs so they can use them however they want?

I think we need to start the conversation about the DAO having control over what and how many assets can be created and sold into the economy by any contractor, including the Splinterlands team. At some point, in a truly decentralized game, anyone will be able to make any assets they want. The DAO needs to take control over this sooner than later.

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Will these count toward the last airdrop/reveal?

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Please note that the NFTy Arcade platform has a strict no-bot policy for its services, which allows us to ensure that all of these decks will go to real new players around the world.

It's like a Butcher congratulating the cows he's slaughtering on being vegetarian.

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Its a great move and I would love to take back my account from rental and actually play seriously again. More power to Splinterlands.

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could you please just stop outsourcing everything important.

the new player experience should be fixed by splinterlands and the control over the onbording should not be left to third party developers.

Your data that NFTy is such a good onbording system doesn´t speak for NFTy - it speaks against your own onbording process.

There is zero control for the community or the company with the way you´re going about it.

Splinterlands without third party developers would feel like an early 2000s project. You still can´t transfer multiple cards on the website.

Outsourcing rental services,collection management services and statistic tools is fair. Somebody else is ready to cover what you don´t put enough ressources into.

but for gods sake please at least make sure your growth in user numbers isn´t depending on third party developers. fix your onbording. NFTy can be a great addition to a good splinterlands owned onbording process.

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You put it up to a DAO vote burn packs, yet you unilaterally decide to allocate a half million of them to a 3rd party? You had serious doubts this would ever pass a DAO vote, and probably for good reason. This is a disappointing development.

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I really appreciate what @nfty-arcade does for the community. Maybe they could teach the @splinterlands team how to detect bot usage, since that was one of the supporting reasons for this decision.

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Once more for those who don't know how things work:

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

No packs are being given away
No cards are being put on the market
No cards are being rented out
New players means new renters and new buyers
New buyers increase card prices
New renters increase rental prices
New players increase DEC and SPS prices as they acquire assets to improve their decks
New players decrease the likelihood that you face bot after bot after bot after bot
NFTy deck delegations last for ONE SEASON and if they're focusing those decks on acquiring new players, those players will not be getting many repeat delegations as the SPL team has FULL CONTROL over who gets to use the decks.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

Players using NFTy decks split their rewards with the owner of the cards, based on a percentage split set by said owner. The only reservation I have with this announcement, is that the percentage split is not indicated; I suspect that is intentionally left out to give the team freedom to adjust the split as the market dictates.
NFTy gets 10% of the rewards, for providing their service- a more than fair rate for helping players get access to an entire deck, especially newer players who don't have the best knowledge of cards and how to navigate the complexities of the rental system.
NFTy also has no up-front cost, making it seamless for players to get started on playing and earning rewards and, more importantly, learning how to play and enjoy the game and which cards they are most interested in procuring to play with after their short delegation period.
If this were a proposal, I know myself and many many others would have voted for it and I'm certain it would have passed handily because those who have a significant investment in the game (i.e. voting weight) actually UNDERSTAND how things work and (at least for the most part) do their research before jumping to hair-brained conclusions.
I see a LOT of salt in the comments, and it's ALL uninformed.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

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Once more for those who don't know how things work:

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

No packs are being given away
No cards are being put on the market
No cards are being rented out
New players means new renters and new buyers
New buyers increase card prices
New renters increase rental prices
New players increase DEC and SPS prices as they acquire assets to improve their decks
New players decrease the likelihood that you face bot after bot after bot after bot
NFTy deck delegations last for ONE SEASON and if they're focusing those decks on acquiring new players, those players will not be getting many repeat delegations as the SPL team has FULL CONTROL over who gets to use the decks.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

Players using NFTy decks split their rewards with the owner of the cards, based on a percentage split set by said owner. The only reservation I have with this announcement, is that the percentage split is not indicated; I suspect that is intentionally left out to give the team freedom to adjust the split as the market dictates.
NFTy gets 10% of the rewards, for providing their service- a more than fair rate for helping players get access to an entire deck, especially newer players who don't have the best knowledge of cards and how to navigate the complexities of the rental system.
NFTy also has no up-front cost, making it seamless for players to get started on playing and earning rewards and, more importantly, learning how to play and enjoy the game and which cards they are most interested in procuring to play with after their short delegation period.
If this were a proposal, I know myself and many many others would have voted for it and I'm certain it would have passed handily because those who have a significant investment in the game (i.e. voting weight) actually UNDERSTAND how things work and (at least for the most part) do their research before jumping to hair-brained conclusions.
I see a LOT of salt in the comments, and it's ALL uninformed.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

Posted using Splintertalk

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Once more for those who don't know how things work:

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

No packs are being given away
No cards are being put on the market
No cards are being rented out
New players means new renters and new buyers
New buyers increase card prices
New renters increase rental prices
New players increase DEC and SPS prices as they acquire assets to improve their decks
New players decrease the likelihood that you face bot after bot after bot after bot
NFTy deck delegations last for ONE SEASON and if they're focusing those decks on acquiring new players, those players will not be getting many repeat delegations as the SPL team has FULL CONTROL over who gets to use the decks.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

Players using NFTy decks split their rewards with the owner of the cards, based on a percentage split set by said owner. The only reservation I have with this announcement, is that the percentage split is not indicated; I suspect that is intentionally left out to give the team freedom to adjust the split as the market dictates.
NFTy gets 10% of the rewards, for providing their service- a more than fair rate for helping players get access to an entire deck, especially newer players who don't have the best knowledge of cards and how to navigate the complexities of the rental system.
NFTy also has no up-front cost, making it seamless for players to get started on playing and earning rewards and, more importantly, learning how to play and enjoy the game and which cards they are most interested in procuring to play with after their short delegation period.
If this were a proposal, I know myself and many many others would have voted for it and I'm certain it would have passed handily because those who have a significant investment in the game (i.e. voting weight) actually UNDERSTAND how things work and (at least for the most part) do their research before jumping to hair-brained conclusions.
I see a LOT of salt in the comments, and it's ALL uninformed.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

Posted using Splintertalk

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Once more for those who don't know how things work:

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

No packs are being given away
No cards are being put on the market
No cards are being rented out
New players means new renters and new buyers
New buyers increase card prices
New renters increase rental prices
New players increase DEC and SPS prices as they acquire assets to improve their decks
New players decrease the likelihood that you face bot after bot after bot after bot
NFTy deck delegations last for ONE SEASON and if they're focusing those decks on acquiring new players, those players will not be getting many repeat delegations as the SPL team has FULL CONTROL over who gets to use the decks.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

Players using NFTy decks split their rewards with the owner of the cards, based on a percentage split set by said owner. The only reservation I have with this announcement, is that the percentage split is not indicated; I suspect that is intentionally left out to give the team freedom to adjust the split as the market dictates.
NFTy gets 10% of the rewards, for providing their service- a more than fair rate for helping players get access to an entire deck, especially newer players who don't have the best knowledge of cards and how to navigate the complexities of the rental system.
NFTy also has no up-front cost, making it seamless for players to get started on playing and earning rewards and, more importantly, learning how to play and enjoy the game and which cards they are most interested in procuring to play with after their short delegation period.
If this were a proposal, I know myself and many many others would have voted for it and I'm certain it would have passed handily because those who have a significant investment in the game (i.e. voting weight) actually UNDERSTAND how things work and (at least for the most part) do their research before jumping to hair-brained conclusions.
I see a LOT of salt in the comments, and it's ALL uninformed.

NFTy IS NOT FREE!

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