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I'll keep this very simple.
What is BLURT ?
BLURT is a blogging platform and a clone of HIVE.
BLURT is very user-focused with a community ready to welcome new users.
There are NO DOWNVOTES on BLURT.
If you have been on HIVE for a while or if you were on STEEM before - you probably already have a BLURT account (you can use your same exact hive or steem keys to logon to blurt.blog).
To check and see if you already have a BLURT account, just replace the "logiczombie" in the following link with your own HIVE username - https://blurt.blog/@logiczombie - if your account shows up then you already have BLURT crypto !!!!
If your HIVE account does not show up on BLURT - don't panic - leave a comment on this post and join the BLURT official discord channel and you will receive assistance creating a new account on BLURT.
Feel free to tag LOGICZOMBIE in the BLURT discord channel and I will send you some liquid BLURT to help you get started (even if you already have a BLURT account).
LINK TO OFFICIAL BLURT DISCORD
LINK TO OFFICIAL BLURT DISCORD
For example, @blocktrades aka @blocktrades.com aka @blocktrades-help has over 2 million BLURT tokens in their account that were cloned when the BLURT blockchain was first created.
This 2 million BLURT is currently worth $65,000.00 in USD.
You can view the largest BLURT accounts here,
https://ecosynthesizer.com/blurt/richlist
Any and all questions are welcomed
Any and all critiques are also welcomed
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ALSO, IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT GREAT WRITING, CHECK THIS OUT
ALSO, IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT GREAT WRITING, CHECK THIS OUT
BELOW IS AN EXAMPLE OF A FACEBOOK AD TURNED INTO A HIVE AD
ABOVE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A FACEBOOK AD TURNED INTO A HIVE AD
here's the original facebook ad for comparison
here's the original facebook ad for comparison
HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE HIVE KINGS CONSIDER "HIGH QUALITY ORIGINAL CONTENT"
CLICK TO WATCH ONE MINUTE AND TWENTY NINE SECONDS
CLICK TO WATCH ONE MINUTE AND TWENTY NINE SECONDS
if you're tired of being threatened with downvotes
try earning crypto at blurt.blog
- you can easily do hive and blurt - just copy and paste your writing to both !!
https://blurtworld.com/@logiczombie
https://blurt.blog/@logiczombie
if you had a steem account - you already have a blurt account
you can use your steem keys to logon to blurt
CRITIQUE = RESPECT
do you agree with the following definition of crypto
this is a simple "yes" or "no" question
if you fail to respond your answer will be a presumed "no"
thread continued at -
https://peakd.com/@logiczombie/re-logiczombie-r2had1
https://hive.blog/@logiczombie/re-logiczombie-r2had1
and
https://blurt.blog/@logiczombie
UPDATED 2021/19/12 (1) edits today
https://whaleshares.io/@cookiemonster
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UPDATED 2021/17/12 (1) edits today
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do you agree with the following definition of crypto
this is a simple "yes" or "no" question
if you fail to respond your answer will be a presumed "no"
thread continued at -
https://peakd.com/@logiczombie/re-logiczombie-r2had1
https://hive.blog/@logiczombie/re-logiczombie-r2had1
and
https://blurt.blog/@logiczombie
No
Yes. Then the coins on the exchanges are not real cryptocurrencies.
No
yes
That is actually very good and simple explanation of the cryptocurrency essence.
Yes.
Yes!
Nice
Yes!
Yes
I agree. Now, Please stop tagging me.
I would agree, however, I have seen accounts frozen so number 1 is not necessarily true. Should you be able to? No. That's like the government seizing and freezing your assets. Huge no-no to me.
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Can you please remove me from your mention list before I tot loose my shit?
I like that you are thinking of me in every of your posts, it's so romantic, but the other part of notification ... ('and 450 others' ) sounds like a cheating bastard whom I drowned in his own piss.
Yes.
Yes
Yes
ok, i'll try - it's just infuriating when they won't even tell me what i did "wrong" AND they won't tell me what they want me to do - - it's like getting punched in the face and then saying i can't tell any0one i was punched in the face - because most people will just assume "i deserved it" without even investigating
I'm done talk too, I have $10,000 for the first witness to blacklist these clowns.
Steemit is great at doing that by manipulating the chain. Try them.
There's no content creators on steemit I am interested in.
They all came to hive, most of them required manual instruction I regret giving them now.
My payouts were manipulated so as far as I am concerned manipulation is in order.
I will double my offer to $20,000.
Please let me know if you find any witness willing to even attempt this.
I am just referencing the design of the blockchains, I noticed no one is using the white and blacklists much.
I see it as a good exploration of this technology to make these lists work live, on chain.
The lists that you see used on Hive Blog are based on the 'follow' function. Anyone can create those lists. You can make one, blacklist everyone you dislike, and encourage others to follow your list. What I'm assuming you're suggesting though is restricting accounts on the chain level. That's not something Hive will do.
Well arguable I could fork this software or pay a developer to and do that myself right?
It would be like Banning bad actors imo, community consensus and majority opinion could be a good way to diversify the blockchain for different interest groups.
You can fork Hive and create a new social blockchain with whatever protocols you want.
Not sure why anyone is downvoting you for this comment, but this is exactly the kind of insanity I have lost patience for on Hive.
I just ignore it.
Best do. It will continue till the end of time.
Keep using HIVE but get you're OWN frontend where these guys can't post... like fulltimegeek.com
Also... guiltyparties is a Coward and a Deviant... for the record.
This platform needs 20 more years to develop, it's like having a Sega Dreamcast and Phantsy Star Universe Online, while asking your friends IRL if they have an account...
Im ordering a nintendo switch 🤔
My favorite band decided to put out a powerful neutral message this year.
My Actifit Report Card: December 19 2021 - Second Chance?
We should talk about this sometime...
Please pas my # along to @ultravioletmag
Did you ask me for consent before publication? NO.
Not that anything of importance is published there, but it is always important to ask for permission.
you're already downvoting me, and you've already explicitly refused to explain exactly what your demands are, so, what the heck do you want from me?
Absolutely nothing!
Good luck!!
Legit question...what is it exactly that bothers you so much about people wanting to question the mainstream narrative on the hive blockchain? I totally understand you and others don't agree with the idea of corruption from within governments but does that make it ok for you to be such an influential adjudicator? I've come across quite a few of your interactions on this subject and besides coming across as a bit of a bully, I have to say you seem a little arrogant. From where I stand it seems @logiczombie is asking reasonable questions and being quite restrained while doing so. I think the least you could do is try resolve this issue or just agree to disagree, because the longer this sort of thing goes on the worse it looks to everyone looking in. Please also remember that nowhere on hive does it inform people who sign up that there are certain subject which are not allowed to be rewarded.
If you are “reasonable” I will give benefit of doubt, and assume positive intent.
Unfortunately logiczombie is around for a long time and knows all the nuances, at least should.
You however someone I do not know. So if you have a question I will answer it to the best of my ability.
You are correct it doesn’t say anywhere on hive that certain will not be rewarded.
Mind you, it doesn’t promise any reward either. Only says your content may be of value. It is judged whether it is of value by cumulative votes which are stake weighted. That’s it.
Most people who are complaining are farmers and want money for their shitpost which won’t be worth anything in the real world. We reward a lot of that. As collectively people don’t use enough downvote power. But there is only so much we can tolerate and a line have to be drawn and I have drawn my line to the best of my judgment, and logiczombie is currently on the wrong side of the line. That’s all.
I speak politely due to the fear you have created by your overbearing actions. If I’m honest, the way you and yours conduct yourselves is quite offensive to me(which is just life so no real bother). I wouldn’t normally speak out like this but on this occasion you seem to have downvoted this post purely because you disagree on a personal level. Downvoting was never intended for that and has always been sold as a way to combat abuse. What has been created is akin to watching children squabble in a playground.
I think you and I see Hive quite differently. I won’t speak for you but the way I see hive is like an auction or a garage sale where people pay what they think is a fair value for something they like. In that respect, we do not sit in the auction room waiting for someone to bid on an item only to step in as some middle man who adjusts the agreed price for no other reason than he/she doesn’t like the product being sold. There is a place for a middle man but that should to protect the auction against buying stolen goods. If people are selling shit then I understand the need for a watchman but much of what I have seen is a blatant attempt to control what’s on the trending page and therefore what’s visible to others(many of whom might like that content).
I find it quite telling when you use the term “we” as if you all have nominated yourselves as the opinion for everyone. You do not speak for me and I find value in much of the content being downvoted by those you refer to as “we”. In the end there is truth to be found on both sides of this argument and people should be able to make that judgement for themselves without feeling the need to punish, especially when some wield much larger weapons than others. We all came together to create hive due to someone wanting to control the platform and I imagine you were one of those who joined in this action. It seems quite ironic now seeing the same people attempting to do something very similar if not worse.
I mean no ill will towards anyone on here whether I agree with them or not but I do find this whole situation very tiring and reflective of the social media sites we strive to evolve from.
Peace be with you @azircon and I hope this can be resolved.
I am not in charge of your emotions. Also I can’t fix your misconceptions on science or facts. You have to go back to school for that.
You can see whichever way you like to see hive. I have no control over it. I see hive exactly the way it is described in the hive white paper. I say “we” because I help write it. I helped creating it at the time of its inception and so did 100s of others.
https://hive.io
https://hive.io/whitepaper.pdf
I speak politely to you because I am naturally polite. I am also reciprocal, if people are impolite to me, they get the same treatment.
I’ll take a look at the white paper, thank you for the link. I’m not going to debate the science or “facts” with you as this is a point neither of us will budge far from. However, I will say that much of the info on hive that gets downvoted is created as an opinion derived from reading the work of scientist who are renowned in their field. These people know much more that you or I ever will on the subject and they deserve to be heard. Just because you have chosen to disagree with that side of the science doesn’t make you right, and the same goes for myself. That would be arrogant of us and very ignorant of a past which has proven that corruption exists within every industry.
Getting back to the point of all this. As someone who stands on the outside of the flagging war, I would ask that you reconsider your tactics and find another way to manifest your opposition.
I appreciate the hard work you and others have put into creating hive and I’m sure you have all been very well rewarded. However, that doesn’t mean you should have a disproportionate control over what gets rewarded(at least to the point where you can zero someone’s rewards).
Again when you assume you make an ‘Ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’. :)
Please don’t try and teach science to me. I am a scientist and I am well renowned in my field. I have 2 masters degrees and a PhD. :)
If you try to teach me science that would really be the end of the conversation. It seems like we have arrived there. See, usually this happens. I didn’t assume anything but here we are :)
And so you have resorted to attempting to belittle someone who is trying to have a sensible conversation with you. Well done you. I never made any attempt to “teach you science” but instead tried to make the point that science is often contested, often with valid points on either side (surely even you would agree with this?)
It’s a shame your ego has gotten in the way of our conversation. I think I understand now why things have got to this point.
Ce la vie
Cool story bro. Either way, how much did you really pay for that paper degree you have accumulated (granting of course it's somewhat true)
Great scientists don't have time for this wankfest. You're most likely that below mediocre and dumbest "scientist" in your class and was unable to contribute anything in your field hence you chose to be an active foot soldier on hive commandeering a brigade of useful idiots on discord and watching over what people post on their wall. You truly are a clown as reflected accurately by your avatar 😆
I have seen this before. The day that anyone needs your consent to publish on Hive is the day Hive loses all value. Hive only exists because Justin Sun did exactly what you are doing on Steem.
I strongly recommend you cease your censorship of @logiczombie. While you may disagree with his opinion(s), Hive's greatest value is that it enables free speech. As the internet becomes more censored, the value of Hive increases. Unless it's also censored, which you are doing.
You are free to decrease the value of the token as you see fit. I don't use it as money, so I don't care. You may not grasp that Hive has value mostly because it has free speech, and that affects the value of your stake, so I thought to elucidate. You appear to think people value your opinion because you have what you consider valuable stake. I thought you'd prefer to not reduce the value of your stake, as that seems to be your sole source of self respect, and the respect of others for you.
I do not value people, or their opinions, based on the size of their wallets. I reckon there must be other valuable traits you possess upon which to base your self esteem, and would happily recommend some you could undertake to embody for that, and other, even more meaningful, reasons. Start with kindness, and you will not go wrong, IMHO.
I will recommend “knowledge”, and “networking” for you. Perhaps then you didn’t have to recommend kindness to me. I am saying this only then you will figure out kindness is a virtue that I have.
None of my behavior impedes free speech. Downvote doesn’t remove the content. It just demonetizing. My stake is based on my hard earned money, yet I don’t care about it. Otherwise I could have optimized on how I can grow it efficiently. I don’t care about the value of my stake. I do care about improving the value of the platform. I do care about making honest hardworking people financially free.
Censorship is defined as the 'suppression of speech...' Removing content is one of the ways that speech can be suppressed. Flagging is the means of preventing spam, so it obviously suppresses speech. That suppression is cited as the reason flags exist on Hive. It is obviously true that reducing the reputation and earnings potential of someone on Hive by flagging every single comment and post they make suppresses their speech.
There is censorship I believe in. In fact I just published a post with that title. However, flagging someone for the content of their speech because you disagree with it is not censorship I believe in, and it strongly discourages not only the user flagged, but the community generally, and worst of all, it discourages people from becoming users of Hive.
Hundreds of Hive users have left because of exactly being flagged for the content of their speech in the years I have been using Hive, and if you have been here very long, you are very unlikely to be unaware of that.
@logiczombie posts quality content and has a following that values his posts. I hope you care about improving the quality of the platform enough to refrain from censoring his posts from now on, and discouraging him, other users, and potential users of Hive. The best way to improve Hive is to attract new users, and retain the ones already here.
Thanks for the courtesy of your reply.
There is no suppression of speech. There is no content removal due to downvote. The content is there and anyone can read it. This is a fact and there is no argument against this fact.
Only the monetary rewards were removed in a downvote. People who likes to leave should. There is no compulsion.
So, according to you flagging does not discourage spam? I disagree, as did the creators of Hive, and hundreds of users that have used flags to discourage spam on Hive. Driving people who aren't spammers away from Hive by discouraging free speech is the complete antithesis of Hive, and destructive of it's purpose.
I do not believe your statements are forthright, honest, and sincere. Your participation in Hivewatchers reveals you do use flags to discourage spammers, and are fully aware you suppress speech by flagging.
It is facile to claim that flags, the sole mechanism on Hive competent to suppress spam, don't also suppress other content as well. You don't have to speak honestly, but when you don't you earn the low opinion of everyone that finds deliberate falsehoods exclusively the resort of people without merit. No one finds your protestations convincing.
You are acting to degrade and denigrate Hive. While I don't care about the token value, I do value the ability to speak freely, and to consume content provided by those that can speak freely on Hive. If you don't and want to use a platform that does not allow free speech, you can go anywhere else on the internet where other censors will openly acknowledge your agreement with censorship and intent to suppress free speech there.
Please stop censoring here.
Thanks.
I never said downvote doesn't discourages spam (I hate double negative). It does. I DV to discourage spam. I also downvote to disagree with reward and will continue to do so. This is my last word and end of this discussion.
You can quit speaking at your convenience. I assure you the discussion won't end just because your participation in it does.
Regardless, I do appreciate the opportunity to discuss the matter with you.
Flagging Hive users other than spammers and scammers is opinion flagging and censorship. Censoring Hive users is bad for the platform, and bad for society. People depend on free speech because it provides safety signals that can be a matter of life and death. Censorship kills.
You can censor on numerous platforms where it is expected by those using them. Hive is not such a platform. The value of the platform to it's users is largely determined by it's censorship resistance, and by flagging Hive users that are not spammers, you are degrading the platform and reducing it's value to the community.
Please do not do this on Hive. The current token price is artificially suppressed precisely because of the censorship that has been undertaken here, and the denial that is commonly resorted to by the censors who have refused to use the actual definition of censorship and claim a plethora of excuses to justify that censorship that are seen as duplicitous by ordinary users of social media. This causes them to not come here and post, which would benefit all Hive users if they did.
If you cannot restrain your urge to flag and censor, go ruin some other platform.
Thank you.
I'm on Blurt now posting whatever the fk I want to and no downvotes there.
nice, it's always wise to keep your options open
i haven't completely given up on hive quite yet
it's just strange how almost everyone here says they love free-speech so much, but nobody will stand up to h!vewatchers
Happy to read this :)
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It's a refreshing feeling. Also, they have their own abuse mitigation. I don't know all the details of it, but you just post and engage there.
It's difficult for me to comprehend how non violent differences of opinion which deviate from the common narrative are harmful to others.
With the internet, we have this amazing ability to choose what we consume and what we do not consume. Perhaps this is freedom of choice?
If an idea/opinion/belief deviates from that of a central authority, we find ourselves needing a decentralized solution, like Hive.
But is Hive decentralized when a body of authority can dictate the visibility of a persons ideas/opinions/beliefs, while diminishing/cancelling out any possibility of rewards and increased visibility from other agreeing parties?
If I made a post which outlined an unpopular belief, and the post was downvoted by an account that supersedes the power of all accounts voting on the post beneath it, I start to feel like its a mainstream social media outlet, with a little more "pig in a blanket" feel to it, where everyone is nibbling at the little crusty flaky outside layer, while avoiding the pig in the middle.
Please excuse the strange metaphor, it came to me while composing this reply. I would hope that it's not considered a dangerous opinion for others to read.
precisely.
Unfortunately.
Isn’t this meant to be the whole point of decentralised social media that one can share outlier opinions? These posts get the most interaction on Fb too out of any so I don’t know how it’s classified as a shit post.
Love this :)
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Thank you :)
I am glad to see a sub 50-reputation account in the DV discussion.
The first-world Bucharzt's jibber-jabber wears me down.
Btw, This my alt account
@nathanmars
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Prentending to be mentally challenged is the only socially acceptable way out of my misery.
is your witness currently inactive ?
I have decided temporarily deactivate my Witness node.
Planning to reactivate very soon :)
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I have questions, sir. What happens when I vote an account as a witness? Why is it important? What happens if I don't vote anyone?
It is just like casting your vote in general elections.
If you do not vote, nothing happens. If you vote, your vote is not changing much. If you spend hours of time on researching candidates, it makes no economical sense (the rewards for a good choice is tiny), although you might find it enjoyable. If you do not, you can proxy your vote (on Hive, not IRL) to someone who is not protecting 100% of your personal interests (as you would do) but the time you save makes it a good tradeoff.
What is your opinions on A top 20 witness supporting Racist shit posts and my flags on this persons account? 😅 https://peakd.com/someeofficial/@brundlefly/stupid-white-cracker-asses
@frankbacon @logiczombie
That auto spaminator downvote is ruthless.
He's a criminal... it's clear indication of criminal deviancy... let the courts figure it out.
All it does for me is let me know my comment got posted... and adds up in the end... and we're far from the end.
The way you worded that was a bit slandery but yes I agree about indications of criminal behaviors when people act unethically it is why I try to stay in my room as I live in Vegas and its just if you are not a criminal or get in line with them here much less anywhere in america you will lose trying to participate in this sick society.
Yeah pulling back the curtain of truth just to find a rabbit you have to relentless follow to understand the bigger picture just to find out decentralization with a DPoS system really does create weird scenarios in which the blockchain imitates life. We really do have gross double standards in this community currently. I still have faith these hypocritical behaviors by both witnesses and others is just a reflection of the chaos and apocalypse this world is experiencing and perhaps that is the brilliance of HIVE and how it imitates life. I mean non hateful informative anti government content by individuals either get dinged automatically with downvotes for vindictive purposes ie bully behavior or for political reasons.
But shit posting a plagiarized meme centered around racism will get you a $25 upvote from a top 20 witness and a welcome message from @hive.buzz
Bruv...
with THIS kinda typing,
WE really ought to be talking.
I like transparency. If we are open with our discussions in a public forum the discord whisper network can not sustain.
then think...
underground RADio
because I don't like the insinuation that I'M NOT
open and transperrant!
I've been OPEN SOURCE for 5 years!
Public admission of home phone, legal name, and home address...
SO I'M WAY MORE JON Q PUBLIC
than half the SH!Ts we're typing about.
Lol... the english language is a bit much at times. I am just saying a lot of the drama is reserved for discord dms. most People on hive are no different than most people in real life. Public forums are not where truth is supposed to be discussed. Supposed to be small talk you know groovy chit chat or general racism towards white people and sharing your experiences cross dressing your kids for Halloween while asking when the appropriate age would be to start transitioning your kid to the opposite sex.
it'sall French to me...
Pardon my French.
I have a burnt email address that is just nothing but spam.
You misunderstand...
I see HIVE has Open Email... Email ISN'T Private!
As a Concerned Citizen who was once Exposed online and Harassed, I switched tactics and became more open and public. It's the TYPING I have a problem with... apparently so do a lot of people.
There is this sickness whereby people see typed words and MAKE UP ALL KINDS OF ASSUMPTIONS... that usually are far off base. Also, as someone who's had private calls recorded and doxxed in the same way, I view all my Verbal Talks with people as Radio work and have them recorded, Livestreamed, or monitored by third forth and fifth parties ALL of the time.
So I absurdly assumed I could take this convo away from the keyboard where my brain doesn't operate too well... and go to spoken word to clarify details that would otherwise get lost in translation...
but now I feel creepy ... so have a good night Bruv.
it'll all work out.
I understand. I have a open peakd channel with ya. I am so down to chat its cool typing can be mundane and never ending
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/qanon-steemit/
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Was nasa the ones running the bots in SPL Bronze league to mine not only asteroids but NFTs too 😄
You know seeing that racist meme and the support it got had me wondering how much of the downvotes out there are based on racism more than political reasoning
@logiczombie
I does look like we need to finally drop the idealist stance that decentralization is inherently "good". And that everything that positions itself as decentralized is, in fact, decentralized.
Hive can only be a truly decentralized (anarchist) entity if—and only if—some central authority decides to make it so. Paradoxically. Isn't that right?
Thank you for your thoughts on this topic.
The idealist inherently good mindset mitigates the idea that we are still operating within a pyramidal power structure which is representative of much of what is wrong with the real world, and is the fear of biting into the pig in the middle which keeps people quiet.
Seems that way yeah :/
the "problem" is TOKEN DISTRIBUTION.
(IFF) 20 accounts control 51% of the active votes (THEN) decentralization is dead (which is fine, just stop pretending)
however,
if someone can place a witness within the top 20, it can block any NEW changes to the blockchain.
generally, people shouldn't be able to constantly change the rules in their own favor - the top 20 can freeze and or outright steal accounts at will.
NEW20#
all-trending-page - rank #4
here's an idea for a "free-speech" experiment.
take some or all of this post -
https://peakd.com/vaccine/@lethalinjections/hidden-truth-about-the-shots
https://hive.blog/vaccine/@lethalinjections/hidden-truth-about-the-shots
and include it in your next post.
then sit back and see what happens.
HERE IT IS!
CLICK TO WATCH ONE MINUTE AND THIRTY SECONDS
first they came for the "flat-earthers", and i did not speak out - because the planet is obviously an oblate-spheroid...
then they came for the "conspiracy-theorists", and i did not speak out - because i really don't stick my neck out for "lunatics"
then they came for the "pro-VOLUNTARY-vaxxers", and i did not speak out - because i generally like to "stay out of politics" generally
by the time they came for the independent-minded-free-thinking-skeptics, there was nobody left - are you kidding me ? those free-thinkers never join anything or listen to anyone !!! - they're super easy to pick-off one by one.
Thank you for referencing me as Free Speech witness.
it is my honor
I will invest $10,000 if you blacklist AZ and Curangel on your witness node.
Why? What did he do?
Sorry if I might sound ignorant to the dramas surrounding the blockchain, but I want to know more about this one now before doing anything.
He is a key actor in this toxic major share holder battle.
Without AZ I would still be on Hive... I am in the middle of powering down to leave forever.
I'm going to take a look at it before seriously consider your proposition.
I can run a witness node if you fork the network.
It's an interesting proposition.
@pfunk
PLEASE TELL ME, WHAT IS THE STANDARD PUNISHMENT FOR MAKING 13 COMMENTS ???????
EXCUSE ME IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW 13 COMMENTS CONSTITUTES A CRIME
PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW "NO FORMAL CONNECTION" = $12,120.00 HIVE DELEGATION FROM - YOU'LL NEVER GUESS...
20 DAYS AGO - EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME I WAS GETTING DOWNVOTED BY STEEMCLEANERS
@diggndeeper.com - please consider reviewing your witness votes
@pfunk - let me know when you figure out that hivewatchers is downvoting based on their political opinions
ALSO,
unvoting is a freedom - unlike DOWNVOTING - unvoting does NOT take money out of your pocket
DOWNVOTERS always say they don't need to explain their DOWNVOTES
i have nothing against you PERSONALLY - but i have no reason to INCLUDE YOU either
honestly, i don't care if you're acid or not - i only care if you understand the problem
ALSO,
ALSO,
IN CASE THAT'S NOT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU
and @adm is downvoting me
so
well
what can i say
awesome.
perhaps you can figure out why @steemcleaners started downvoting 100% of my comments for over two weeks and then @adm took over for them
@pfunk
PLEASE TELL ME, WHAT IS THE STANDARD PUNISHMENT FOR MAKING 13 COMMENTS ???????
EXCUSE ME IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW 13 COMMENTS CONSTITUTES A CRIME
Right on. Thanks for the reminder.
I'm not sure why I'm on his shitlist but he seems to think I'm acidyo or someone else on this list, so if that's the reason for unapproving me, check his logic first.
Politics... of time.
catching up.
I checked his Logic over Yours a while back... so expect more shunning in the future.
You wouldn't know because you're not where it's discussed, but I have been one of the most critical people about what @hivewatcher does with the hivewatchers and adm account. Hive needs abuse mitigation but that abuse mitigation should be as neutral as possible. When I see issues with that, I don't ignore it.
The account was reported recently for comment spam. That's why it is blacklisted and received adm downvotes.
Steemcleaners account is a private account now to which few users have access including former Steemcleaners members.
It has no formal connection with Hivewatchers.
Some of the users who have access to Steemcleaners accounts use it for downvoting privately. Some downvotes may overlap with some downvotes on the accounts blacklisted by HW.
You must be very impressed with yourself.
I'm more impressed with the fact that this is Collusion... which is AWESOME in Discovery.
Everyone knows 13 comments isn't spam. Everyone knows you guys downvote based on who you like or not.
I personally don't care it's not my stake, but let's not pretend
UPDATED 2021/11/12 (2) edits today
quoted text from
https://peakd.com/hive-122315/@dynamicgreentk/re-logiczombie-r3yf89
https://hive.blog/hive-122315/@dynamicgreentk/re-logiczombie-r3yf89
Again, I see what you are doing and I respect it as well as you. I recently had to engage and let my voice be heard as silence can be a killer. The situation has emerged to be a ugly one. both parties have valid points and are not able to see eye to eye because of posts like these where both parties are displaying ugly attitudes and no solutions to a situation that I think can be solved in a healthier way. ie proposals, olive branches and not constantly shoving ugly stuff in people's faces. Yes, morals and ethics are important and holding others accountable is key in a civilized society but so is healthy solutions. I do not think this post reflects a healthy solution or approach at this point. I would appreciate having the tags removed for this post for dynamicgreentk, dynamicsteemians and dynamichivers as I am looking forward to a new post from you that steers the conversation past highlighting ugly statements by all parties. I appreciate you and your hardwork. Keep up the good fight to be the change you wish to see in the world!
reply below
what exactly do you believe are the "valid points" that are being presented by "both parties" ?
i'll settle for just your top 3 from each side
(1)
(2)
(3)
what specific part of my writing do you consider "ugly attitudes" ?
(1)
(2)
(3)
writing proposals is great - but only the oligarchs have the votes to actually pass any proposals - they've raised the bar specifically to shut-down anyone who opposes them.
what "ugly stuff" (please be specific) is "constantly" being "shoved" "in people's faces" ?
(1)
(2)
(3)
here's a "healthy solution" which i've been promulgating
BURN THE REWARD-POOL - STOP GIVING DOWNVOTED REWARDS TO THE TOP EARNERS
the top earners are already doing quite well - they don't need any extra-gravy
burning the unspent reward-pool would still benefit the oligarchs MORE than anyone else (through dynamic deflation) - BUT - it would also benefit ALL STAKEHOLDERS proportional to their investment
the downvoting vigilantes already claim they don't do it for the money
so why not burn the unspent reward-pool ?
everyone absolutely loves a burn post
free movie of the week
https://tubitv.com/movies/321246/zeitgeist-moving-forward?start=true
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@stoodkev - please consider reviewing your witness votes
@stoodkev - i noticed that you UPVOTED the following post that includes this comment
https://peakd.com/blog/@tlavagabond/catherine-austin-fitts-interview-global-financial-coup-d-etat-and-technocratic-slavery-that-follows
https://hive.blog/blog/@tlavagabond/catherine-austin-fitts-interview-global-financial-coup-d-etat-and-technocratic-slavery-that-follows
@stoodkev - @acidyo aka @ocd is spearheading a public campaign to drive AWAY any content creators whom they happen to disagree with politically
@ura-soul has been heavily targeted
@v4vapid - why are you apologizing to these bullies ?
there's a great scene in the first season of this show, where the bullies take over, and instead of beating the girl who defied their made-up "rules" - they instead make her publicly apologize for what she did "wrong"
Step one: scare all your critics into NOT VOTING (so nobody "opposes you")
Step two: convince people who might vote for lower ranked witnesses that they "don't understand" the technical aspects and or they need to do "more research"
Step three: vote for yourself and claim "the community supports me"
@trostparadox -
@trostparadox - maybe try voting for 30 witnesses that ARE NOT DOWNVOTING @URA-SOUL ??
@trostparadox - delegating your hive-power does NOT diminish your WITNESS VOTE
hold on a second, are you renting a delegation from @theycallmedan ?
or is that a gift ?
https://peakd.com/@trostparadox/wallet
https://hive.blog/@trostparadox/wallet
UPDATED 2021/10/12 (2) edits today
acid responds to his self-votes -
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@kennyskitchen/re-acidyo-r3wzmw
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@kennyskitchen/re-acidyo-r3wzmw
i'm pretty certain it's NOT the stated mission of @ocd and @ocdb to protect @acidyo from downvotes
try curating some "high-quality-original-content" (not written by someone who controls the curation trail)
how many undiscovered writers missed out on that $27.00ish HIVE ?
whatever happened to your assertion that "downvotes are no big deal" and everyone should just stop complaining ?
see who has figured out how to use the MUTE function
https://www.cutehive.com/muted.php
see who is super proud of their first flag
https://nftshowroom.com/themarkymark/gallery/themarkymark_just-being-marky_markys-first-flag
link of the week - -
https://peakd.com/hive-100421/@stopthemarkymark/re-k7m8onea-20200311t001010
https://hive.blog/hive-100421/@stopthemarkymark/re-k7m8onea-20200311t001010
link of the week - -
https://hive-together.herokuapp.com/intersections?accounts%5B%5D=acidyo&accounts%5B%5D=ocd&accounts%5B%5D=&intersections_size=8&limit=1000&only_replies=false&start=601000
more detail
https://www.hive-now.com/@acidyo
UPDATED 2021/05/12 (3) edits today
reply to - @barge - https://hive.blog/@barge/re-barge-r3nau8
@barge, phenomenal reply by the way - a true masterpiece
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"the person winning in monopoly is never the person flipping the board"
"the person winning in monopoly is never the person flipping the board"
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when they say "stop talking about downvotes" -
a "safe archive spot" would be https://blurt.blog and or https://odysee.com and or https://blurtworld.com/
@j85063 - please consider reviewing your witness votes - you retain all of your witness and proposal vote power - even if you delegate all your hive power to someone else - delegation does not give them your witness and proposal votes
please consider voting for these free-speech witnesses
@aizensou
@altonos
@bethalea
@c0ff33a
@cadawg
@complexring
@disregardfiat
@drakos
@earn.hive
@enginewitty
@fernandosoder
@hagie
@helo
@jamzed
@jedigeiss
@kristall97
@lapingvino
@liondani
@mintrawa
@oflyhigh
@patrice
@perfilbrasil
@shmoogleosukami
@steemychicken1
@tazi
@techcoderx
@thealliance
@ura-soul
@whiterosecoffee
@yehey
@j85063 - you are currently voting for the following BIG DOWNVOTERS
first they came for the "flat-earthers", and i did not speak out - because the planet is obviously an oblate-spheroid...
then they came for the "conspiracy-theorists", and i did not speak out - because i really don't stick my neck out for "lunatics"
then they came for the "pro-VOLUNTARY-vaxxers", and i did not speak out - because i generally like to "stay out of politics" generally
by the time they came for the independent-minded-free-thinking-skeptics, there was nobody left - are you kidding me ? those free-thinkers never join anything or listen to anyone !!! - they're super easy to pick-off one by one.
UPDATED 2021/04/12
ALSO,
quoted text from - @ truthforce (who doesn't want to be tagged)
For the record, since you are slandering me now.
No, I really don't. I have upvoted everything they have downvoted dozens maybe even a 100 times by now with our curation trail. Not even close.
I have never said ANYTHING close to such a statement, anywhere. In fact, i've literaly never made the Informationwar about me at all. I don't make posts about how great I am or anything egotistical AT ALL about the effort. I'm extremely low key about the entire effort. If you respect what I have accomplished over 1000 hours of time spent on the project over 4 years that's fine, if you don't then I don't care. I don't care at all if you respect me one bit, or if anyone does. My accomplishments speak for themselves and I don't need anyone trying to inflate my sense of self worth.
There was personal information in the conversation, someone's private words written just to you, not to the public. If you want to make a private conversation public you need to ask for permission from the other party. It shows you had bad moral character by not doing so.
Violating privacy of someone.
Causing conflict with me and Kenny(long time direct supporter of IW) and other IW people, as I vouched for you by allowing you to join our discord and elevated you to a higher rank so you could participate in higher level discussions. You then abused that priveledge by making it all about yourself, everything you ever typed in our server was about you 100% of the time.
Mass messaging everyone on the Informationwar Discord, so that you can take screenshots of people's conversations and publicly post them for your personal vendetta and use it, while not even caring how that could get them targeted by whales or hurt the effort.
Not caring the people that you hurt by doing this, you clearly don't care at all about who you hurt with your actions(you're hurting people by going about this the way you are going about it)
I've told you before what you are doing is making a target rich list for whales to downvote, they can see all those people you tagged and just open up their profiles and start downvoting them. You provided them on a silver platter a huge list they can use to blacklist not and add auto downvotes to.
Your approach is totally wrong because you are now hurting us, who you apparently "claim" as allies. We aren't your allies anymore. You caused us to lose HP support on curation trail and our upvote effort has now been diminished because you want to make everything about yourself and tag spam people daily.
reply to - @ truthforce (who doesn't want to be tagged)
saying you have the same attitude as acidyo and azircon is NOT slander
an attitude is not a crime
an attitude is not a belief system
you ARE being reactive and blaming me for kenny's reaction
kenny is blaming you for what i did
do you see how this is ridiculous ?
we are completely independent actors
we are not the same person
you are not responsible for my actions
i am not responsible for your actions
if you had a "problem" with what i was posting in informationwar -
YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING
i'm not a mind-reader
and you claim that "i only posted about myself" - please provide screenshots
i never talk about myself personally unless someone asks me a direct question
i always post what i am interested in
and your claim that i was "spamming" ALL your informationwar subscribers is verifiably FALSE
i sent friend requests to maybe five people who i recognized
and when maybe two people accepted the friend request - i sent them stuff
only one person asked me to stop sending stuff and i never bothered them again
YOU CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO FOLLOW "UNWRITTEN RULES"
AND - as far as creating a "target list" - my subscribers are already public knowledge and the people who upvoted this post are already public knowledge - so - i'm not sure what your point is
@acidyo and @azircon have already targeted you
their vendetta was not caused by me - i do not control them
AND - perhaps you and kenny never said the exact words - "you better respect me because i control a big curation trail"
you and kenny certainly act like you can make demands on me - as if i "owe" you something
which is pretty much what @usainvote said - "how ungrateful"
which is pretty much what kenny said to @tonysayers33
quoted text from - @barge
@logiczombie
I can't call 'right' or 'wrong'. I can rewind and tell you what my feelings were at the time.
It had the feeling of a betrayal of trust – that's basically it. I generally dig KK's take on life/spirituality/pLandemic etc and I felt he was being open and even trusting with you – answering who the big delegator was etc, and stating why he didn't want to spend energy in a negative d/v campaign as suggested. I know that you consider everything you post to be for anyone to use freely and it felt as if you had applied that to the conversation with KK in a way that pushed it too far ie that you had taken advantage.
I take your point that the delegator is public info readily available. That had not occurred to me in the state of consciousness where I was dismayed that you'd do something like that and thinking how I might feel if that had happened to me.
It did feel a bit like an attack on KK – I think it's likely he will have taken it as such. Perhaps there are elements of KK (and TF?) having aspects of HivePOWER go to their heads in the sense of that being a motivation to action that serves Ego rather than Other – I don't know and can't say. But I have heard both speak out in support of stuff that aligns with me and haven't observed the kind of violence of approach that would make me wanna distance myself. It feels as if you are being harsh on them. I do respect your sense of purpose and although I better understand now where you are coming from, it still seems as if the content of the update was rather divisive in intent and effect.
You are right that you didn't doxx anyone and that there was no personal info. My initial reaction did move in that direction I have to admit, and KK's response ('disgusting') suggests the same. I do accept that that is/was an overreaction based on emotions and not logic :).
Ya, it's not black'n'white. I seem to remember you posting an exchange with Azircon but that came from a public server. Is that different? I think so and not because of the personalities involved. I admit I'm struggling to pinpoint what exactly it is that still feels uncomfy about screenshotting the DM convo without consent (indeed, as opposed to paraphrasing)...perhaps that it was clearly to be considered private (tacitly understood by both parties) – would you agree that such an understanding would be the default? And if so, then it is here that the violation takes place. I'd say that at the least – and perhaps no more than that – you disrespected KK through your action and this was not provoked or (to my eyes anyhow, even now upon re-reflection) justified.
There you have it bro!
reply to - @barge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges
UPDATED 2021/03/12
reply to - @barge
kenny and truthforce have the same attitude that azircon and acidyo have
"you better respect me because i control a big curation trail"
i didn't "doxx" anyone - there was zero personal information in that conversation
i could have "paraphrased" the conversation - but why ?
please explain exactly which part of the conversation in question violated some specific moral principle ?
please explain exactly what you think i "did wrong"
UPDATED 2021/02/12
CRITIQUE = RESPECT
CRITIQUE = RESPECT
CRITIQUE = RESPECT
@jamesc - please consider reviewing your witness votes - you retain all of your witness and proposal vote power - even if you delegate all your hive power to someone else - delegation does not give them your witness and proposal votes
@ctime - thank you for your proxy
CRITIQUE = RESPECT
@xeldal - please consider reviewing your witness votes - please also consider adding @drakos to your 29/30 witness votes - you retain all of your witness and proposal vote power - even if you delegate all your hive power to someone else - delegation does not give them your witness and proposal votes
CRITIQUE = RESPECT
@enki - please consider reviewing your witness votes - each and every account has exactly 30 witness votes assigned - UNUSED witness votes are de facto votes for the oligarchy - you retain all of your witness and proposal vote power - even if you delegate all your hive power to someone else - delegation does not give them your witness and proposal votes
UPDATED 2021/28/11
https://peakd.com/steemit/@sunlit7/q4rs8h
https://hive.blog/steemit/@sunlit7/q4rs8h
THE MILKERS AND THE STEEM GATEKEEPERS
https://peakd.com/palnet/@nonsowrites/the-milkers-and-the-steem-gatekeepers
https://hive.blog/palnet/@nonsowrites/the-milkers-and-the-steem-gatekeepers
Comparison Video that Was Removed TWICE from YouTube
https://peakd.com/dtube/@highimpactflix/fahs4mz0
https://hive.blog/dtube/@highimpactflix/fahs4mz0
how can you claim to be any different than Facebook, and the other CENSORSHIP sites?
https://peakd.com/informationwar/@mepatriot/jz3nh-look-at-my-blog-steemit-seriously-how-can-you-claim-to-be-any-different-than-facebook-and-the-other-censorship-sites?sort=trending
https://hive.blog/informationwar/@mepatriot/jz3nh-look-at-my-blog-steemit-seriously-how-can-you-claim-to-be-any-different-than-facebook-and-the-other-censorship-sites?sort=trending
The Disproportionate Power Balance with Downvotes
https://peakd.com/hive-174578/@bengy/steem-the-disproportionate-power-balance-with-downvotes
https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@bengy/steem-the-disproportionate-power-balance-with-downvotes
DOWNVOTE EARLY, DOWNVOTE OFTEN
https://peakd.com/ethics/@logiczombie/downvote-early-downvote-often
https://hive.blog/ethics/@logiczombie/downvote-early-downvote-often
DOWNVOTED FOR NOT DOWNVOTING ENOUGH OTHER PEOPLE
https://peakd.com/hive-174578/@livinguktaiwan/i-got-downvoted-because-i-don-t-downvote-people
https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@livinguktaiwan/i-got-downvoted-because-i-don-t-downvote-people
DOWNVOTED FOR USING PUBLIC DOMAIN IMAGES FROM WIKIPEDIA
https://peakd.com/ua/@yetaras/my-steemcleaners-blacklist-my-apology-to-the-steem-community#@cranium/re-yetaras-2020127t84034577z
https://hive.blog/ua/@yetaras/my-steemcleaners-blacklist-my-apology-to-the-steem-community#@cranium/re-yetaras-2020127t84034577z
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Ok, I guess I had to come back for more. Seeing as I perceive you as a intelligent person, I had to read the updates today for this I'm mad ass hell post...
There is a whole world of Hive DMs, secret projects, "ethical hackers" and I will go out on a limb and say Dan, Ned and Sun are still influencing big time. People wanna taunt Sun or brag about having more HP than @ned and even thinking @dan is busy working away on EOS and not influencing Hive still with secret accounts or posts about how we should stop accepting rewards on posts from the rewards pool:
Lastly, anyone building anything that results in economic profit and loss imposes tax consequences on their users. Tokens like Voice or Hive create tax events every time they change hands. This is why I decline rewards when I post on Hive, they are not worth the tax accounting. With the growing sophistication of the tax authorities and the loss of privacy, none of these token-based ecosystems / platforms stand a chance unless they automatically do all of the tax calculations and boil it down to a 1099. The only way to automate such calculations is to have full knowledge of every purchase price and sale price. Such things are not possible if users are trading on multiple exchanges in a decentralized manner.
Ultimately, I can see the rewards pool being eliminated or morphed into something else as we become a more robust Chain that with each day outperforms Cardano and pretty much any web 3.0 competitor.
Not sure if we really do have 30 witnesses, if they do simply just vote on themselves to maintain ranking in top 30 or if they are out of date boomers blindly following orders from Dan and who totally slept on the NFT craze and now is sleeping on the metaverse with the exception of course of @aggroed and @dlux-io.
Ok, almost done with coffee and now why I really came here to say what I meant to say.
In my almost 4 years on Hive there has been two accounts I have kept my eyes on as I have been hyper critical of and they have proven to be some extremely solid people who is building communities and doing great things.
One was @neoxian, in 2018 when I created @ dynamicsteemians lots of people in my group was receiving loans from him. I was concerned because the price of Steem was volatile but his community is extremely rich now 3 years later and he has brought a lot out of poverty worldwide. Truly some cool shit that man has done for Hivians over the years and now. I have explored many many communities on Hive and Neoxian's is the most polite and loving community too.
The other person was @theycallmedan. I have been a houseboy (no not gay) for multi-millionaires, worked for them and have been their right hand man. Not often will you find a multi-millionaire take pride in pouring millions into an investment that was on a downturn in steem as it was crashing and Ned was selling off his steem for a buck.
TheycallmeDan was not a legacy investor and truly wanted to build on Steem/Hive. He really does have vision and a long term goal. He was screwed by Ned in my opinion, as Ned was driving down the price of Steem in order to sell to Sun so he can retreat to his Epstein island with his Epstein friends, who are the Steem legacy investors who were not international poker players. Theycallmedan will bring the investors that will further support the @deepdives community and overall anti-goberment content on Hive and somehow this man crafted a brilliant proposal and network to incentivize further support on memes and conspiracy content while paying mind to current trends like NFTs and blockchain gaming.
reply to @ dynamicgreentk
Look.
I'm NOT out to defame anyone or call anyone teh evilz or anything.
It's really extremely simple.
Sure, all of the top witnesses have done good things, we all know that.
but i REFUSE to vote for a witness that DOWNVOTES ME
so,
@neoxian and @theycallmedan are off the list
@theycallmedan has downvoted me
this is not an opinion
this is a fact
@neoxian votes for @blocktrades and @guiltyparties and @ocd-witness
these accounts have downvoted me
this is not an opinion
this is a fact
UPDATED 2021/27/11
https://hivebuzz.me/ranking
https://hivebuzz.me/ranking
WHAT'S A LOGICZOMBIE ?
https://peakd.com/hive-122315/@logiczombie/logiczombie#@logiczombie/
https://hive.blog/hive-122315/@logiczombie/logiczombie#@logiczombie/
@holoz0r - please consider updating your witness votes
curangel = pharesim
massive downvotes on this simple, FACTUAL "downvote report" -
https://peakd.com/hive-150329/@ura-soul/the-untrending-report-the-150-biggest-downvotes-on-hive-in-the-last-7-days
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@ura-soul/the-untrending-report-the-150-biggest-downvotes-on-hive-in-the-last-7-days
Leonis = Enforcer48
join freezepeach discord in one click - the only place to dispute downvotes
https://discord.gg/UNFhm2k9
UPDATED 2021/26/11
isn't it a little strange that acidyo who controls the ocd curation trail, someone who NEVER comments on futuremind's posts or comments and who has NEVER commented on my posts or comments just happens to chime in when futuremind decides to switch their witness proxy.
it's a little like talking with a friend about voting for another senator and then hearing a knock at your door.
the same for usainvote - why do you think they broke their silence only when i started talking about witness votes ?
UPDATED 2021/25/11
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Next time set to null in these cases.
Looking at the vids when i get more data.
The Double Edged Sword of Exclusivity, the social token paradox.
https://messari.io/article/the-double-edge-sword-of-exclusivity
hey hey i got in trouble doing this
Fuck the trouble, make it double!
fukng with you
Things will get better. High stakers have their interests but at 1billion valuation new players will enter
And then they will lose their seats at the top. ... Hopefully they ones that take their seats has a bit more of an ethical discipline. Unlike JS who is also a billionaire but a child. Spoiled ass rich asshat
New folks coming in to make more money doesn't mean things get better... just that there's more folks throwing around their stake.
I love this post
@logiczombie has IT fingered out!
Myth...... that is what makes and has made the world go round....they, the PTB, have created and are creating the world for us to live in.... As long as the masses stay asleep and eat the "bollucks" being fed them, they allow the myth to continue......The world has ample proof that masks are a "woobie blanket" and "the jab" is ineffective...... What else? Oppression and suppression of "free speech"..... Who made you KING?
I am King Neptune....... and you will obey..... LOL!!!!
Why does King Neltune hold the trident of Jupiter?
You know finally we are seeing Hive web 3.0 evolve into something more than just social media posting to earn money. This will be a beautiful experience as we see the Metaverse evolve and more blockchain games come here thanks to @splinterlands! People like you help move us in a positive direction.
Your support has been awesome and much appreciated! Thank you!
I think there will be more big institutions, businesses, blockchain gamers and content creators that will help morph Hive past just a rewards pool chain. Proposals for Hive might start to get interesting in 2022 as Metaverse and blockchain gaming pushes us to the top of the web 3.0 world.
Too many transactions for only a short number of witnesses running the whole chain.
And the top are, in some instances, the number accounts posing as witnesses is just one person behind them with large stakes between them delegating each other.
They have made a killing.
What the whales are showing us here though, is that anyone can do what they do. So why aren't they?
I called blocktrades out directly when we split from steem because i didn't like their behavior. they didn't "lean" on me at all and in fact there has been no retribution. I have had to contact them for support a few times regarding withdrawals and they responded immediately and resolved every issue. I think you're just being a classic schizo again. I really do think you suffer from schizophrenia. You seem very paranoid.
I looked at your page...
You suffer from Gaming... You seem Very GAMMY.
@frankbacon You sound like someone who spends his life angry that anyone else can enjoy themselves.
I've gotten into all-out days long arguments with blocktrades about COVID and related things - and he's never once downvoted me, threatened to, or anything similar. In fact, he still upvotes my content on occasion (the more mainstream crypto stuff of course)
Make War, Not Love. :-) Or something else so.
I see you keep tagging me through the edits which is fine. I appreciate your relentless fervor in standing up for what is right. You have noble intentions and really do care for others and Hive. It shows with how you stand up for others and hold other accountable for their actions.
The social media side of things on the first layer as far as creating antigovernmental content and politically controversial content is not a reliable way to reach audiences in a proof of stake arena that anymore is a true reflection of society in general. Most that know the truth are quiet while the 80% are pro government and corporation. It is a beautiful mess. While I do not agree with the actions of some of these whales/witnesses some of these same whales really are feeding people in other countries with their upvotes and creating/supporting crucial Hive 3.0 projects away from the 1st layer social media rewards pool. Creating second layer communities that is walled off from Hive seems like a do-able reality but I have yet to see it be done without cross-posting to Hive where you will be gobbled up. Still yet https://blurt.blog/ and what @thecryptodrive is doing seems to be the ultimate solution for people like you and @ura-soul especially with emerging metaverse stuff https://peakd.com/gamestate/@gamestate/the-gamestate-tribaldex-ido-begins...
I personally have been having a better experience trying to focus on NFTs, @splinterlands and emerging projects on hive engine. Check out my NFT gallery at @nftshowroom...
The reality here is that it is only 2 or 3 individuals that are causing most of the problems out of a community of 30k+. Having a situation where 1 person can determine the reach of the posts of anyone who stands out is actually worse than what is occurring on Facebook, since at least FB has a large team doing the 'editing'. While this may seem to be a problem only for 'dissenting voices', the reality is that the principles being invoked by these people are so unethical that they will very likely continue to do this even if everyone on Hive agrees with the mainstream narrative - they'll just find another reason to dominate the activity.
🙏😎🥓👍
I totally get your view point. Think about it though. The masses silence on the matter as well as the witnesses' kinda points to true governance. I think it is a great sign Hive is reflective of reality. As our reality morphs into a new age so will Hive, we will just have to ride out this controlled demolition of the systems put in place post civil war and ww2. As it is, in America we are close to having what is going on in Australia with door to door military round ups so it is a bit intense to speak on anything in fear of being put on the States radar.
People know the the truth they are just now accepting it. There is hope. I just hope individuals like yourself is well prepared via solar, food supplies, community outreach etc as they start to rug pull stuff.
I think things will dramatically change for Hive as old witness votes expire and we see a more diverse set of investors now plus METAVERSE!
There is no single reality beyond that we exist. Everyone has their own reality and they often don't resonate closely enough that the people feel good around each other. Ultimately, everyone has their own destiny. Hive is currently reflective of humanity in many ways, yes, just as the rest of the web is. The point for me is that Hive is based on principles that are intended to represent a more evolved set of values and it enables us to demonstrate our choosing of them. Sure, everyone is free to participate and not evolve or to even devolve, but when this impacts others, it's ideal for a community to work to resolve the issue instead of deny, stick head in the sand and carry on.
I honestly do not think what one may find on facebook, instagram and other algo ai dominated web 2 apps is what you would find here yes we will find a reflection/ripple of what users that still use those platforms bring here. Its the DARPA contagion.
I get where you are coming from 100% it is always the darkest before dawn.
The real problem is the central banks and anyone participating in crypto currently, some may argue against btc maximalist, is rejecting the scam of fiat. Web 3.0 is about to go parabolic. You will have greater flexibility to influence change in your community and on Hive as we start to evolve into more than a first layer rewards pool circle jerk thing.
https://www.gamestate.one/
https://hive-engine.com/?p=market&t=SWAP.STATE
Ok, I guess I had to come back for more. Seeing as I perceive you as a intelligent person, I had to read the updates today for this I'm mad ass hell post...
There is a whole world of Hive DMs, secret projects, "ethical hackers" and I will go out on a limb and say Dan, Ned and Sun are still influencing big time. People wanna taunt Sun or brag about having more HP than @ned and even thinking @dan is busy working away on EOS and not influencing Hive still with secret accounts or posts about how we should stop accepting rewards on posts from the rewards pool:
Lastly, anyone building anything that results in economic profit and loss imposes tax consequences on their users. Tokens like Voice or Hive create tax events every time they change hands. This is why I decline rewards when I post on Hive, they are not worth the tax accounting. With the growing sophistication of the tax authorities and the loss of privacy, none of these token-based ecosystems / platforms stand a chance unless they automatically do all of the tax calculations and boil it down to a 1099. The only way to automate such calculations is to have full knowledge of every purchase price and sale price. Such things are not possible if users are trading on multiple exchanges in a decentralized manner.
Ultimately, I can see the rewards pool being eliminated or morphed into something else as we become a more robust Chain that with each day outperforms Cardano and pretty much any web 3.0 competitor.
Not sure if we really do have 30 witnesses, if they do simply just vote on themselves to maintain ranking in top 30 or if they are out of date boomers blindly following orders from Dan and who totally slept on the NFT craze and now is sleeping on the metaverse with the exception of course of @aggroed and @dlux-io.
Ok, almost done with coffee and now why I really came here to say what I meant to say.
In my almost 4 years on Hive there has been two accounts I have kept my eyes on as I have been hyper critical of and they have proven to be some extremely solid people who is building communities and doing great things.
One was @neoxian, in 2018 when I created @dynamicsteemians lots of people in my group was receiving loans from him. I was concerned because the price of Steem was volatile but his community is extremely rich now 3 years later and he has brought a lot out of poverty worldwide. Truly some cool shit that man has done for Hivians over the years and now. I have explored many many communities on Hive and Neoxian's is the most polite and loving community too.
The other person was @theycallmedan. I have been a houseboy (no not gay) for multi-millionaires, worked for them and have been their right hand man. Not often will you find a multi-millionaire take pride in pouring millions into an investment that was on a downturn in steem as it was crashing and Ned was selling off his steem for a buck.
TheycallmeDan was not a legacy investor and truly wanted to build on Steem/Hive. He really does have vision and a long term goal. He was screwed by Ned in my opinion, as Ned was driving down the price of Steem in order to sell to Sun so he can retreat to his Epstein island with his Epstein friends, who are the Steem legacy investors who were not international poker players. Theycallmedan will bring the investors that will further support the @deepdives community and overall anti-goberment content on Hive and somehow this man crafted a brilliant proposal and network to incentivize further support on memes and conspiracy content while paying mind to current trends like NFTs and blockchain gaming.
Great Comment! HIVE!Regards!
Neoxian city wasn't nice to me.
Somebody slandered me their discord, and I happened to randomly catch it, and when I confronted them I got booted from the conversation, sooo,...not so nice to me.
Reading through today's update, I can't help thinking about Our wealth and how, without money of any kind (with free energy so We don't have to account for Ours), all such issues will be gone.
Also... Taxes? Stop consenting to that system and You're not in its jurisdiction. Haha!
Do not mistake my playing devils advocate in order to point out the good while acknowledging your/our grievances, as a way to entice you to change your opinion or votes for any reason. Heck, I removed my votes for all witnesses recently due to their silence on the downvotes and how some were coming from witnesses. But choose to transcend the downvote situation and fully support Crim/PAL by following her witness votes via proxy.
Is there really a moral high ground in this financial world where the masses are either out for upvotes to sustain their Hive presence or hold statist views that are contradictory to the concept of Cryptocurrency/blockchain tech, unless you are of course a BTC maximalist. The Splinterlands/Blockchain gaming community is a clear exception to this although I got tired of Marky aimlessly flagging my Chinese homie lolz.
My mental health is not 100% especially as this world further attacks men, family and becomes insanely racist in a real ignorant manner. That is not to mention I have history of vaxx adverse effects and life long msg allergies as a result. Accepting the situation and understanding that the trend is for high APRs and decentralization from the new generation of non millennials, I can better start to not feel the need to spread awareness. These new kids get it. They want quality NFTs, blockchain gaming content, air drops and high aprs. Cool! I am in! So much happier curating art and chasing High APRs than trying to help or bring awareness to people who will, historically speaking, let me down.
Yeah @ecency is about to loose my support if i dont get some answers about why I cant use their points they marketed to me in their app...
Is there bug that you reported and we missed to address, you cannot use your points?
Yeah, haven't been able to use my points in months now, unless you have a problem with me talking about my interest in the vaccine and what factors I think contribute to my decision to get vaccination for covid 19 the I don't know why it hasn't worked.
Is vaccine hesitancy an issue on ecency or am I allowed to question the CDCs narrative on this platform?
You can talk about anything you want and we haven't had any reports of points service having issues. Did you try to promote your content and it is not showing? Or you are referring to boosting, if so boosting has more strict review process done manually by our curators and they give priority to new content and more unique authors. Try boosting your content when they are fresh and make sure content and boosting amount is reasonable because human reviewer takes that into account as well.
Maybe I overlooked your policy on points. Is the above statement about curation being 100% up to the curator and not ecency when using points to boost posts stated somewhere on ecency before using the points to boost posts?
Our curators are selectively chosen and we get fresh curators every month to make sure there is honest commitment to grow ecosystem. Boosts are reviewed manually and Points are used for boosting or promoting content. Hope it answers your questions.
Not really as I was asking if this is made clear on your site is all. I was curious about using points in the past and have them not apply at all. No big deal really just explains somethings. Just suggesting to make that clear when using the points on ecency in case I did not overlook this explanation of points.
Good point, noted... We will see how we can improve/inform better.
betta than email!
Great Comment and Info!
So you definitely know the Plight... and I definitely Honor your way of dancing between the raindrops.
I always expected my Account and Artwork to be a sort of NFT to begin with... I called it an ENF... meaning IT's Good ENOUGH for my book!
Kind regards!
Even the lefty Technocrats are starting to wake up and understand that they are on the wrong side of history by thumbing down anti-government content that makes them look like Pro-fiat whales; leaving many to speculate if we have some elitist trust fund kids mindlessly playing games. But I think there is more to it and much more complicated than anyone may understand who doesnt have a massive stake where just one 100% upvote can cause hiccups with the stability of the currency. Probably half of why the upvotes are having greater weight to them now and days while downvotes are become less as people want to stake more and when selling HIVE you run the risk of not being able to get it back unless at a higher price.
Just because Ned and Dan got away with some SEC compliancy issues
(and I don't think they did, I think they Bribed the right guy, but who knows)
Doesn't mean that someone with a High Enough stake is absolved of Securities Issues.
Striking an individual is one thing, but these elites are going to get Invitations soon to come CLEAN on their Tactics. Worst part for them is where they live. International Cyber/Banking laws and Citizens who are ACTIVELY breaking Laws based on Securities is going to be up to Other STATE sources to Decide. Maybe I don't get Financial Justice this way, but Certain Parties ARE identified for State Agencies to decide what to do.
You know anymore the more I look into it really does seem hive-engine and dex's like that, that are not anywhere near SEC approval or standards has some risk towards regulation. I think fake decentralized currencies like ama/cardano or competitors to the looming fed coin ledger like xrp will be the threat the SEC goes after. It does not help at all having an active lawsuit with Hive-engine at the center of it that mentions the SEC and server manipulation of game assets being pushed forward. Not saying its credible but def wont help HIVE.
Still, it seems HIVE is truly decentralized on the first layer and most likely will be ok since we actually own our keys and crypto. We will see as the goberment will do whatever but often incapable of doing anything.
The standard is original content everytime.
Source content not original, including pics.
Is there someway I can get untagged, I was sympathetic, but I'm over getting tagged on these mega messages with 25 links and scrolling through it to find what if anything has changed.
Pretty sure we're all just stuck in his tag-spamming vortex at this point :-/
I think they removed it! :)
I think what is happening is unfair, but also.. I don't want 25 notifications a day! lol
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all one has to do is ask not to be tagged. but tagging is a public right. many get angry too fast to understand that. I appreciate how cool headed most have been about it.
Man, I really think you are crossing lines here by publicly displaying full private conversations with @kennysgaminglife. I have had many conversations about downvotes with him. While, especially at the time, I disagreed in large part towards his views, I understand them and respect them. In fact anymore I understand them for reasons he mentioned in your chat with him and to not be blind to the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that the masses will let you down with their silence no matter if it is here on HIVE or next door with the person you have known your whole life.
I have a specific memory of being flag by multiple witness for a post being critical about them. Only to be flagged because I edited a few times with 50 of them tagged.
I get it especially now as you are going on a weird loop trying to prove a point that is only isolating you further from the community. Just I want to see you anyone else succeed.
Why not go full ham in support @thecryptodrive and his metaverse thing with blurt and splinterlands and polygon? Seems there will be real healthy opportunities to thrive in the web 3.0 world outside of just HIVE.
100%
My friend, It's getting difficult to continue to follow this post. Also, I reckon it's just a matter of time before Hive is DNS'd by the UN now that they are actively disabling DNS access to websites that do not present the oligarchy's narrative in lockstep, which Hive can never do.
Folks that care about their stake need to get it out, or Peakd, Hive Keychain, and Crypto exchanges need to be usable via Tor, which may enable them to remain operative.
Give it thought.
Don't stop fighting. If Hive folds, I won't. But I'll be where I can still speak, likely on Tor.
You're right, just saw a thing about it. jeez.
Good thing there is ENS! Ethereum Name Service :)
Unstoppable domains? Can you provide necessary information to enable me to use what can avail us of speech when DNS does not, please?
Thanks!
why would you take what someone said in a private DM and immediately post it? that's messed up.
You can please remove me and @truthforce from this going forward.
As you know, I have posted about my discomfort with targeted downvoting campaigns against folk who are questioning, challenging and exposing the 'official' COVID narrative - both in the world at large and especially so, here on Hive.
After reading your latest update (2 Dec 21) and thinking about it quite late into the night with a couple of spliffs, I feel honour- and integrity-bound to similarly express my discomfort here.
This discomfort of mine is two-fold.
I struggle to understand why you did this in this manner LZ!
I have found your posts thought-provoking, your thinking stimulating and your strong, principled stance(s) admirable. I understand that the position you have found yourself in - unable to post, comment or otherwise engage in any manner on this blockchain without being targeted with d/vs and having everything zeroed out - is fucked up and frustrating. Yet you have found a few creative ways around it and I have been glad to still be able to listen to your voice.
But I fail to see any benefits in the content of this update.
I hope you can see the POV I'm trying to express. I do not wish to align myself with action that moves towards even greater division and separation - it feels heavy in the pit of my stomach and I need to speak my peace by expressing what I have over here.
I support the free expression of both your, and KK's voice. It is sad for me to see these voices turned on each other.
Please (re)consider this approach.
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@logiczombie
I can't call 'right' or 'wrong'. I can rewind and tell you what my feelings were at the time.
It had the feeling of a betrayal of trust – that's basically it. I generally dig KK's take on life/spirituality/pLandemic etc and I felt he was being open and even trusting with you – answering who the big delegator was etc, and stating why he didn't want to spend energy in a negative d/v campaign as suggested. I know that you consider everything you post to be for anyone to use freely and it felt as if you had applied that to the conversation with KK in a way that pushed it too far ie that you had taken advantage.
I take your point that the delegator is public info readily available. That had not occurred to me in the state of consciousness where I was dismayed that you'd do something like that and thinking how I might feel if that had happened to me.
It did feel a bit like an attack on KK – I think it's likely he will have taken it as such. Perhaps there are elements of KK (and TF?) having aspects of HivePOWER go to their heads in the sense of that being a motivation to action that serves Ego rather than Other – I don't know and can't say. But I have heard both speak out in support of stuff that aligns with me and haven't observed the kind of violence of approach that would make me wanna distance myself. It feels as if you are being harsh on them. I do respect your sense of purpose and although I better understand now where you are coming from, it still seems as if the content of the update was rather divisive in intent and effect.
You are right that you didn't doxx anyone and that there was no personal info. My initial reaction did move in that direction I have to admit, and KK's response ('disgusting') suggests the same. I do accept that that is/was an overreaction based on emotions and not logic :).
Ya, it's not black'n'white. I seem to remember you posting an exchange with Azircon but that came from a public server. Is that different? I think so and not because of the personalities involved. I admit I'm struggling to pinpoint what exactly it is that still feels uncomfy about screenshotting the DM convo without consent (indeed, as opposed to paraphrasing)...perhaps that it was clearly to be considered private (tacitly understood by both parties) – would you agree that such an understanding would be the default? And if so, then it is here that the violation takes place. I'd say that at the least – and perhaps no more than that – you disrespected KK through your action and this was not provoked or (to my eyes anyhow, even now upon re-reflection) justified.
There you have it bro!
@logiczombie
Not scathing from this end surely :)
I agree that a transparent (authentic) Life is one that is not governed by secrets (that which is hidden/shameful/knowingly concealed for one's perceived advantage etc) or the need for secrets or the getting pissed-off at the revelation by others of what one considers 'secret'. When there is something to hide, shame is not far away and anger/rage etc are also present. When one says what one means and means what one says and this is done clearly and non-violently, there is no need for secrecy or build up of stress in oneself.
I have played with secrecy and shame and anger in my life. I cannot demand that others cease and desist from this. I do not feel I can project onto others what I may have discovered for myself. I have to respect their choices. I feel the need to respect their desire (real or assumed, if not implicitly stated otherwise) for privacy. Even though it may be claimed that legally both parties must first agree to stuff being 'off the record', this doesn't seem to me to add up lawfully (morally) for reasons previously stated.
I defo agree that one ought to consider anything at all said on the web in any form (email, text even) to be in the public domain. Doesn't mean that folk are in that state of mind when DMing and again, I cannot impose this perception.
You have been polite, but I dunno if it got you Nowhere! I'd have to understand the correlation between you giving up that politeness and the start of the d/vs against you. I'd imagine that there would be some correlation. But it is very vague, this notion of 'politeness' (the social demand that one MUST be polite - I know how deeply it's instinctively ingrained in me!). Being polite also doesn't seem to have anything much to do with facts or Truth. But there's still something in it and this may be to do with personal psychology and the triggers that trip the aggression switch in folk who then view the lack of politeness as rudeness → an attack (and therefore justification for retaliation). When this is subconscious, there is likely to be a lack of awareness on the part of the 'doer'. Not much to do with logic, but then, I've read often that the VAST majority of human decision-making is emotionally-driven and not at all dictated by logic although humans go to GREAT lengths to twist and reshape their statements of reality in order to give the impression that it is ('trust the science' anyone? :).
Perhaps it's also a choice of battles and playing-fields! Is it a fight and does it have to be? Who are the 'oppressors' and are they really the conscious drivers of this rather than entities caught up in the webs of their own ambitious makings? Is it not exactly the same for everyone - we're caught up in webs of our own making? If I'm not responsible for anyone else (only for myself), then this HAS TO BE the case.
How much of this is a result of things being taken personally (by all parties) and how much is this emotionality (taking something personally is an emotion-driven response) the maker of decisions - and not logic (even for the logiczombie)?...I am just wondering rhetorically, yet seriously too for I know you have been around Hive for a long time and have a put a lot into this b/c. I've seen you go to lengths to gather witnesses to vote against Sun just before the BIG hardfork, I know you give a shit! I imagine that being ostracised, feeling misrepresented and misunderstood, bullied and ganged-up on etc is a painful experience! But the 'responsibility' principle still applies - if I am not responsible for anyone, and nobody for me, then they are not responsible for how I feel about anything either, regardless of action taken.
If one doesn't react from a place of personal pain, then the response itself need not be painful (less likely to trigger pain). In other words, could the 'politeness' simply be transformed into 'not reacting from a state of personal, emotional pain'? This would have the best chance of not provoking a pain-reaction in Other. Better chance of one's voice being heard too. No kowtowing required! No guarantees of course but the response of 'Other' is not your responsibility - it cannot be controlled and in a state of conflict any response is unlikely to be anything other than (1) emotionally driven (2) distorted to fit into a box of 'logic' that is really just hyperbolic semantic justification for that emotionally driven decision/action but which cannot at any cost be admitted.
You have quoted Jung in the past so I imagine you do not dismiss the concept that there is more (maybe almost everything more) to Life than what meets the eye at a superficial level; that Energy itself has Power and this is available to us all equally. It can also to be accessed at a level 'higher' than that of the physical plane of breathing/feeling/hurting (and 'fighting') which is (the illusion of?) the Human Condition.
I know it may look like I'm advocating something like turning the other cheek if not outright submission to gangsters on the prowl. I'm not at all and I hope you see that.
You do speak Truth to power, that is clear to me. Those who take up that battle AND speak with sharp voices that cut to the chase and strip everything down to inYourFace facts, have historically been the ones to feel the boot coming down most intensely upon them. Allies can misunderstand them or be turned or become afraid of the forthright nature of their words + afraid of those against whom they are directed, and distance themselves. However, taking up arms and engaging in violence has been tried and found to fail, for any such use of weapons are not only less destructive than what power can wield, but also appear to justify even greater use of force (power presenting itself as victim and getting away with it due to narrative control).
I think there are non-violent ways of communicating Truth to power. I also accept that if you are rummaging around in the secret underwear drawers of power then it will object most vehemently and come to your door with trigger fingers. Shame is a powerful driver of action!
Is it possible to continue to speak Truth to power even when it shits in your yard? Can you sweep up the mess and not Retaliate in Kind?!
I suppose it depends on what you want and what battles you think you are fighting. I dunno what lies on the other side of this for LZ but I don't reckon you'll be served by making war or engaging (at any level) in the energy of violence. To retaliate in kind is to relinquish an extremely solid and strong position IMHO. The consequences are messy and painful. Messages get lost. Credibility appears weak. The gratification (short term satisfaction) of Retaliation in Kind doesn't pay off. The KK incident seems to have had elements of gratifying something for you..... I am not stating 'facts' or really wanting to dissect this much further, merely offering you my (rather subjective) perspective.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges
Thought-provoking as always! Would I be communicating my thoughts on all this differently if I were invisible to the consequences? Ha ha, and would I seek gratification for what I consider woeful and wilful misreadings of life and how to conduct oneself? Would I be less 'polite' and not beat around that bush so much 😂? Big Qs bro...and I really dunno. I'd like to think I'd find a way of presenting the widest possible perspective in the simplest, clearest manner possible; without any violence towards those I disagree with, yet highlighting why I do so in a non-provocative manner. This way folk can make up their own informed minds with a chance of doing so from a neutral and balanced position which represents a state of consciousness which is NOT the same as the state of consciousness in which the 'problem/issue' arose in the first place.
I think you kinda dig this shit too LZ!
That'll only go so far of course, even with my newly acquired superpower! Thought (and all of Thought's products - which is everything man-made in *Existence) is limited. Thought cannot grasp or acknowledge that of which it is a subset, such as the Reality from which our thought-processed sense of 'reality' is derived. Thought (left-brain dominance) denies the existence of that which is outside of it and goes to great twisted lengths to 'prove' that the little Box_of_Thought is the UNIVERSE_at_Large.
One way outa the cage seems to be a path that cannot be anything other than self-discovered by the individual plodding along it, loaded as he/she already is with all the tools and inner guidance necessary to make this journey....Curiosity, Sincerity and Willingness to challenge one's own deepest Beliefs are, I think, pre-requisites for this self-activation. Where words (Thought) fail to do anything other than trigger in negative ways, Demonstration may be left to us as the most powerful means of communication!
YES!
Seek Peace said the wise...
Still Seeking said the Restless!
@logiczombie
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Mass Formation & the Psychology of the “Pandemic”
You put hard work on this post.
Good for you❤
Hey morning from Las Vegas. I saw you updated also your profile picture. Is that a real pic of you? Anyways, the tagging when updating this post over and over again is taking away the substance of the post and is becoming scattered and hard to follow. I get what you are doing but couldn't you make some new posts referencing this post so that the points you are trying to make are more clear?
Any new post/comment by LZ gets nuked. It'd mean walking thru Hivetown with sniper rifles on him. ATM the updates seem to be a way of discussing the issue and seeing what gives.
It does seem as though the downvotes were removed but not before the damage was done?
Go back a month or so on his profile and you'll see they're still all zeroed out. Most comments too.
I was just referring to this post. There are bigger issues at play in regards to DVs way beyond holding those people within the truth community accountable. I have watched tribe/kenny support very good content and people for years. He takes extreme pride in helping others. In fact in real life, a lot of my friends look up to him because of his efforts with feeding people and want to work with him as some kind of goal. It is way cool. I discussed these downvotes with him on the phone and on messenger. Just as Truthforce mentioned the flags are concentrated on a very small amount of content and the reality is that not much can be done when a @ura-soul gets a $200+ downvote for well written informative content that is well sourced and non confrontational not too mention anti-centralization. Kenny's his main concern is doing what he can to support good content and help people without causing undue suffering. He wants to see people eat and survive and especially off Hive. Dude is in it to win it with Hive and wants lift people up in the process.
While Kenny and Truth do have power within the Hive community, right now they are all we have as far as significant staked support for truth centered content well there is v4vapid, enki and xeldal of course.
We are a decentralized community and here because we don't trust centralized governments and organizations that have no interest in representing it constituents, while stealing our resources and limiting our rights as individuals. It should not come as a surprise when people like logic start to react to DVs as they seem restricting of freedom of speech, which is a US constitution thing and not a UN human rights thing. My issues with the DVs is that there is no clear way to understand why they happen. In this case yeah people gonna get mad being tagged over and over again and have to comb through this post to follow the point. It gets to be mind numbing reading the same thing over and over again. But in my world tagging me is welcomed. So when someone tags me it is like ok cool someone cares.
I have tagged these Downvoters. Some do not answer, some do. I was actually surprised when @altleft and I had a fairly decent conversation or when @gtg gave me an honest response. Can we not ask the Downvoters directly what the issue is and how we can mitigate the DVs? I mean if that is really the issue then lets try to have healthy and productive conversations with people like @themarkymark and @acidyo. Although Acid was pretty clear with his message in the post and I haven't seen him flag ura which anymore is my main concern. Ura is a very solid dude making incredible content. Acid by the way was one of my biggest supporters on Steem. Lots of support from him. He honestly is a picky curator and I can understand downvoting a post like this from his perspective as he has made his perspective clear over the past year in regards to curation.
There has to be a healthy way to start a conversation and bring dissenting parties together in order to create a more healthier environment on chain.
Maybe since the Witnesses represent all of us with consensus voting, run these nodes/servers which are scattered all over the world presumably and since it is not clear who actually owns content here as I pointed out to @guiltyparties and he couldnt really answer who actually owns the content, that perhaps there is concerns over liability and pressures from goberments/ISP providers.
Just some clarification would be cool. Being nice does go a long way sometimes, not that I am some sort of example for that. Its just at a certain point these DVs gotta equal love on some level and maybe it is more than just random bully behavior. Maybe they care enough to respond.
I dig what you say. Here are three of my shots at understanding (1. 2, 3)
Yo, love how well articulated you are and clear with your points. This community needs content like this or rather content creators such as yourself! Hopefully, we find solutions to create a stronger community that will move past relying on mysterious large stakers to manage the downvotes for content while not providing a way to downvote for other DPoS protocols by the community as a whole.
Thanks DS 🙏🤗
here's a possibility, brand spankin' new too :)
https://www.proofofbrain.io/@vyb.vyb/new-tribe-and-token-verify-your-brain-oror-vybrainium-vyb
the guest on this show explains how censorship isnt always what it seems
Great points, thanks for sharing :)
Yeah Russell is the man. Love his take on things. I liked that video more so for the first few minutes where that guest really nails it when he says, "if the location of power looks obvious, then it is probably not there."
For the record, since you are slandering me now.
No, I really don't. I have upvoted everything they have downvoted dozens maybe even a 100 times by now with our curation trail. Not even close.
I have never said ANYTHING close to such a statement, anywhere. In fact, i've literaly never made the Informationwar about me at all. I don't make posts about how great I am or anything egotistical AT ALL about the effort. I'm extremely low key about the entire effort. If you respect what I have accomplished over 1000 hours of time spent on the project over 4 years that's fine, if you don't then I don't care. I don't care at all if you respect me one bit, or if anyone does. My accomplishments speak for themselves and I don't need anyone trying to inflate my sense of self worth.
There was personal information in the conversation, someone's private words written just to you, not to the public. If you want to make a private conversation public you need to ask for permission from the other party. It shows you had bad moral character by not doing so.
Violating privacy of someone.
Causing conflict with me and Kenny(long time direct supporter of IW) and other IW people, as I vouched for you by allowing you to join our discord and elevated you to a higher rank so you could participate in higher level discussions. You then abused that priveledge by making it all about yourself, everything you ever typed in our server was about you 100% of the time.
Mass messaging everyone on the Informationwar Discord, so that you can take screenshots of people's conversations and publicly post them for your personal vendetta and use it, while not even caring how that could get them targeted by whales or hurt the effort.
Not caring the people that you hurt by doing this, you clearly don't care at all about who you hurt with your actions(you're hurting people by going about this the way you are going about it)
I've told you before what you are doing is making a target rich list for whales to downvote, they can see all those people you tagged and just open up their profiles and start downvoting them. You provided them on a silver platter a huge list they can use to blacklist not and add auto downvotes to.
Your approach is totally wrong because you are now hurting us, who you apparently "claim" as allies. We aren't your allies anymore. You caused us to lose HP support on curation trail and our upvote effort has now been diminished because you want to make everything about yourself and tag spam people daily.
Yeah pretty much lol.
I've never really had a problem with you or ocdb before that I can remember.
Now that Hive seems to be well above 1 USD, a lot of posts are making 300+ in rewards. Would you agree that many of those posts need to be downvoted now for being over-rewarded?
I'm not sure the exact circumstances of downvoting of ura-soul or how it started, but I tought it was because he had a post that was about 80 USD right? With posts on trending all being over 200 USD when will see see downvotes hitting those?
I'm not asking this to start a war or battle with you or anyone, genuinely looking to understand why there is a large disconnect. And maybe ocdb only dved him 1, 2, or 3 times, i'm not keeping track and I would really just like to move past this whole thing, but I am curious if ocdb and curangel and others are going to start downvoting trending posts as they are hilariously over-rewarded. Does nobody truly find this content to be over-rewarded for the effort put in?
In turn for our curation group, we are upvoting stuff at a lower % for what we control, so we can spread the rewards out better in general. There are whales who upvote content manually that we don't have any communication with as they don't engage in commenting or on discord. So I want you to know that specific detail because yes sometimes the posts in IW/DD will get pretty high compared to the effort, situations like that are outside our control.
I don't know about the technicals of these (edit) downvotes (automated? constant updates?), but imagine the psychology of having to rate what is overvalued in something that i believe it is measured mostly (asking in the code?) in HIVE not $'s ? (50/50 hbd but the low posts get more hive?), even if it was 50% and with the constant fluctuations of price now you get 10 hive / 100$ next week you get 10 hive / 1000$ or reverse, how do you keep a stable criteria ? That also intrigues me.
In those 7 days must be a mindfuck for these people, and the next going to be different, everytime.
Absurd amounts of DV power (going below zero, either rewards or reputation.
Why not just downvote with less power, at least it gives some sort of message or opinion wich MIGHT be productive instead of "complete destruction" of a post / account. But all there is now is destruction. Only with more active users will this settle down a bit either voting up or down, before any changes that are being discussed elegantly by you coders, in theory it could work with active users (maybe), but not every user that posts uses downvotes or upvotes (or vice versa), might be growing pains... and also there was the ninja mine i guess it didn't help.
Most destructive downvotes (removing big value from valid accounts / curators) seem to be following an agenda which is basically anti alternative and independent media and journalists, and that is also not hard to see, and that i guess is history being written in the blockchain.
There can be a technical discussion and what might seem justification, but i'm seeing it as destroy here, deliver there, and i'm not mentioning or quoting bad posts of the trending page because i think there is no such thing as an overvalued post, but i agree with that OPINION (edit) (of the state of the trending), i wouldn't use my millions of HP to DV them like that.
PS: i remember in the first days of steemit people would be like WOAH who downvoted me 0.01c !? What is happening ? And now most users can go about their lives and understand the errors or infrigement when that is the case (small downvotes), except now when the slider goes brrrr: annnnnd it's gone.
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Deep Dives is coming out soon thanks to v4vapid. Keep an eye on @deepdives
this is a great update today. kind regards.
https://rumble.com/vqkmzy-hive-blockchain-governance-and-tyranny....blurt-is-better..html
First off TF, I'll say that a lot of what you have expressed in the past (posts and comments) has resonated with me. I have appreciated stuff you have stood up for!
Here it is rather different however! This response has been cooking within me for days and won't let me go until out. The impression the casual reader will get from reading some of your comments on this post paint a picture of Logiczombie that I do not recognise. LZ actually responded to what you wrote above and in case you didn't clock it (coz you didn't wanna be tagged), I'm copying it in below my text.
Before I go there however, I'd like to pose a question. This question is posed to those I identify as the 'founders' (? :) of the proposed (L2 on Hive, or external) solution/community/platform: yourself, @ura-soul and @v4vapid.
Question:
In the minds of you three founders, is this proposed 'space' a space in which the likes of LZ, and @logiczombie in particular, would be welcomed (I'm not using 'allowed', coz that word smacks to me of oldStyle thinking)?
Now onto the Logic Zombie himself:
I agree that there was disrespect shown towards @kennyskitchen through his action of making public their DM chat. I have had a long conversation with him on the matter.
I also commented on LZ's
"seeking to use offensively, the same or similar kinds of weapons that have been used extensively against you (LZ) and others (targeting a BIG downvoting account). In other words, looking for a solution in the same level of consciousness in which the problem itself arose - can't be done IMO and it just extends the zone of negativity in which all hell can break loose."
Over time (2+ years?) I have observed what I believe to be the following in LZ:
So what's the fuss and why am I banging on drums in this backstreet of Hive which even be-jewelled gangsters no longer visit, for the action has moved on to KK and Ura street? On a gentle side note at KK and Ura: you guys are holding your own WELL. I just wanna point out how any expression of self-gratification whatsoever (eg Ura when you recently said 'fuck' in an angry tone) will not only provoke a disproportionate backlash, but will also be used in the polemics to discredit you and to further reshape the narrative. If we are really 'all in this together' at some HIGH level, then the energy of 'taking sides' runs counter to that. Just pointing out the obvious, no intention to lecture or suchlike.
But groups of likeminds are useful tools and so we swing back again to the proposed solution and my question to you guys about LZ.
I'd want the likes of LZ to be around in this space, for they have sharp eyes and are not out to pump their reps or wallets - clearly, else they wouldn't do what they do! If that sharp vision challenges me/my choices or expression of course it's gona feel uncomfy at first reading, for my egomind would kick and scream and protest. When calmer, I could examine what the 'accusation' was and then I'd most likely see that my annoyance might've come more from being asked and reasked the same thing from multiple angles...and that there may be something I am covering up, perhaps even from myself...and... here's the catch if I can catch it - the LZs are NOT responsible for how I feel if I am truly sovereign and free.
If upon examination of the 'LZ challenge', I don't find it to have substance, I would feel comfortable saying that to the LZs of the world and would also have a damn good expectation that IF there is substance in what I convey, that it WOULD be acknowledged. There might be some satisfaction in this (of listening and being heard) as well as some expansion (the possibility of synthesis and positive movement).
IMHO, communication with the LZs of the world WORKS.
Right, but what if LZ IS behaving in the manner that you, TF state? Is he really? Shall I pick apart what seems to be clear indications of seeking emotional gratification for perceived past wrongs (a case can be made for calling this blaming someone else for your hurt ie. for how you feel ie. abdicating self-responsibility ie. playing the 'victim') on YOUR part? These 'wrongs' have been challenged by LZ (his reply below) and AFAIK, there has been no response. You mention the word 'hurt', that is an emotional word - the feelings valid and understandable - but I see projection when I read something like "Causing conflict with me and Kenny".
I am NOT demanding ANYTHING from you TF! I have chosen to express myself with explicit respect towards you 🙏......HOWEVER, as stated, this comment is something I need to get off my chest and I am combining it with asking a burning question on a matter that I am curious about, but which is also of great significance to me and the way I perceive things. I'll therefore repeat the question:
Thanks
Barge
Below is LZ's reply to you in case you missed it:
reply to - @ truthforce (who doesn't want to be tagged)
saying you have the same attitude as acidyo and azircon is NOT slander
an attitude is not a crime
an attitude is not a belief system
you ARE being reactive and blaming me for kenny's reaction
kenny is blaming you for what i did
do you see how this is ridiculous ?
we are completely independent actors
we are not the same person
you are not responsible for my actions
i am not responsible for your actions
if you had a "problem" with what i was posting in informationwar -
YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING
i'm not a mind-reader
and you claim that "i only posted about myself" - please provide screenshots
i never talk about myself personally unless someone asks me a direct question
i always post what i am interested in
and your claim that i was "spamming" ALL your informationwar subscribers is verifiably FALSE
i sent friend requests to maybe five people who i recognized
and when maybe two people accepted the friend request - i sent them stuff
only one person asked me to stop sending stuff and i never bothered them again
YOU CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO FOLLOW "UNWRITTEN RULES"
AND - as far as creating a "target list" - my subscribers are already public knowledge and the people who upvoted this post are already public knowledge - so - i'm not sure what your point is
@-acidyo and @-azircon have already targeted you
their vendetta was not caused by me - i do not control them
AND - perhaps you and kenny never said the exact words - "you better respect me because i control a big curation trail"
you and kenny certainly act like you can make demands on me - as if i "owe" you something
which is pretty much what @-usainvote said - "how ungrateful"
which is pretty much what kenny said to @-tonysayers33
The basic gist of this whole thing is this.
LZ was onto something when it comes to pointing out the downvoting is unfair, we all agree on that.
There was a lot of stuff going on with many dozens of people having private conversations, the second someone starts taking screenshots of what someone is saying it outs them. Especially in such delicate matters as downvoting and all this stuff it has blown up into.
The second someone violates the trust of one of my friends that's it for me. I don't give a second chance when someone breaks the rules in my Discord server, that's not to say that LZ can't post on #informationwar or #deepdives or deepdives.blog when its up. I'm specifically saying what happened on Discord and there's a lot more context to this than what you have seen LZ post on Hive.
If you want to talk a little bit about it I can on Discord. I think i've responded multiple times to this entire thing and made my position pretty clear.
Deepdives is @v4vapid 's project. Informationar joined the curatoin trail of @deepdives as to better upvote things.
If LZ simply had not taken screenshots of private sensitive conversations, I wouldn't have a problem with LZ(aside from the tag spam which I asked him to untag me as it's too much for me). Soon as someone posts private convos, that means at some point there is potential for them to do the same of You, Your Group, Your friends, ETC. All to prove a point, which burns everyone. That's why I gave LZ the boot from our Discord only, no boot from anywhere else.
Theres way more than went on here that is public also.
He did cause conflict in our group and caused our group to lose 12k hp that was delegated to us, whether by naivety or in purpose. I dont know why you want to insert yourself into a situation from last week that is over with.
Thanks for the offer but my preference is for a transparent space in this instance – more comfortable doing this here. Besides, it is only just (IMO) for the dialogue to continue here, for all to see.
I do not know what transpired in the Discord servers at the time of which you speak as different versions have been presented by both parties (you and LZ). I think this is an 'unfinished' convo between you guys. LZ's hands are kinda tied atm although he still managed to get a message through to you from behind bars. This message, AFAIK, has remained unanswered by you.
I continue to observe emotive language used by you to describe the situation, also the polemics of exclusion and ostracism. Use different words and you may as well be talking about excluding the 'dirty unvaxxed' from society, the energy feels very similar!
I may appear slow to understand this, but as far as I can see LZ did no more than disrespect Kenny in a manner which, I think LZ now acknowledges (to see if you agree or not you could read my convo with him linked in my opening comment). KK - the one on whose behalf the outrage has been expressed - himself seems to have got over his initial reaction somewhat and has been tacitly endorsing LZ through use of (1) his research (2) positive words to describe LZ's research. There was no doxxing of KK. There was no private info divulged. True, some of KK's private attitudes and opinions might've been revealed and that always feels uncomfortable. I agree that the default starting point for a DM is that it be kept private unless mutually agreed otherwise (the point at which LZ 'disrespected' KK). Also true that in the past I once saw LZ post screenshots of a convo with Azircon, but that was from a public Discord server and thus, IMO, very different from a DM. I have seen no confirmation of anything more than that and what you claim to be the case has not been demonstrated AFAIK.
Yet you indicate that there is more and are painting him as a danger to all and sundry, including me! I wonder why you are so willing to jump onto the let's-kick-the-shit-outa-LZ-while-he's-down bandwagon.
You accuse him of slander, he responds. His response implicitly accuses you of pretty much the same and there is silence. See how it looks?
Perhaps you simply don't like him. Perhaps he's ruffled feathers in the past. Perhaps he hasn't let go of shit you'd rather keep outa sight.
Perhaps you feel he's hurting your wallet. You've mentioned this, so I guess it's a factor. You blame him for causing conflict and the loss of a 12k delegation. To my sight it seems as if this monetary factor may weigh in heavier than other (higher?) principles which a choice of name such as yours might suggest.
But you haven't shown me anything that tells me I'm wrong in what I think of him (see opening comment).
Much is revealed about folk over time. The 1s and 0s on this CHAIN tell many a tale of personal psychological makeup beneath the surface expression. I often find the reading of that kind of code to be more reliable than the combination of words presented in a comment.
If I am wrong about Logiczombie, then please enlighten me for I am no further forward in seeing the image of him that you describe.
Might you just be 'wrong' about him; might you have your own agenda; might you have simply given into the temptation to gratify old grudges against someone who asks too many awkward questions.....I wonder!
Depends on the point being demonstrated/proven. Depends what subgroup 'everyone' belongs to, for it cannot be as completely inclusive as 'everyone' when even one person has been excluded. Depends what you mean by 'burn'. AFAIC, what burns in a pursuit of Truth, is falsehood! How else to discover what IS without first discarding what ISN'T? True for me just as much as it is for LZ and YOU too!
In other words why am I writing here? Great question and I think the answer can be found in my comments dotted around this backwater of a post. Also as I mentioned, my response wanted to come out. I also do not think this is over and done with by any means, and although I don't feel like pushing it much further, there are more discussion points which could be raised. I've seen you mention the need to take sides in comments on the current downvote/censorship debate. Fine, but that's not me. I place my ideological hat where it calls to me from the inside. I choose to neither antagonise, nor to appease. I am simply learning to speak my Truth as I go along. I'm no better, no worse; not above nor below; not more nor less, than you or anyone.....BUT.....'insert myself'??....frankly, it looks a little like you are questioning my presence here (and implying it is not required as the situation is 'over') in order perhaps to avoid questions that have remained unanswered. On this page it looks like you may be more comfortable with mud-slinging than cleaning up.
I like and respect LZ. I have never had live (off-chain) communication with him and you will find that the blockchain has registered only a few comments between us over time. This ain't even really about him although he may be the vehicle through which stuff comes to the surface for reflection, discussion and personal/group action.
And so it seems to me that you wouldn't want the LZs of the world hanging around the new 'Free Speech' zone asking awkward questions. Why didn't you say something to him at the time it was bothering you? Why use this opportunity to bring it up? You see, the 'Control System' doesn't micro-manage, doesn't need to! All it has to do is offer trinkets - the promise of 'power' - and by biting, folk just do its dirty work for it, willingly and voluntarily even if not fully consciously.
THAT is what I have been reading in between the 0s and 1s.
I'm not intending to sound aggressive and I have what I think is an answer from your side to the question I had posed. I hope I have left enough space in the obscure and whacky wording of this comment for you to peacefully bow out if you wish, whilst at the same time giving anyone who is interested (and not fully put off by initial appearances) an opportunity for a more balanced view of the LZs of this world, including the POWERFUL work that they do which is mostly unappreciated in the short-term flurry of emotional reactivity by those whose feathers have been ruffled!
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pls note: no tags here, those who need to, will see :)
If you really want to know you will give me a discord username and I will add you.
I'm not talking about a bunch of stuff publicly that doesnt need to be. I'm not going to cause more drama and get others downvoted because you want me to publicly do that. That's what your questions to me will lead to. Thats not going to happen.
You can read bio and see what kind of person I label myself, and read my pants posts of 4 years. I'm extremely logical and not emotive. You also continually take things I say and wrongly extrapolate on their meaning, which I would appreciate if you would stop trying to "read my mind", because your so wrong its laughable.
Write down your discord username here if you want to know more. Otherwise this conversation is ending here for my side.
If 'it' was as simple and clear-cut as all that, 'it' would be OUT by now and this whole convo might never have needed to take place. You are publicly stating that LZ did this or that REALLY BAD thing but want me to privately hear the justification/reasons for your doing so? Does that sound balanced? Thanks for engaging albeit in a bit of a slippery manner it seems to me...I'm not a mind-reader btw, just a between-the-lines-reader who's really happier being an Unlabelled Nobody.
I guess this particular conversation between us ends here then. I ain't gona push no more .... kinda all been said and/or demonstrated AFAIC.
Amen, Namaste.... I guess!
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Namaste 🙏 and I guess Amen!
iDIG your Work Bruv!
As A psychic... and someone who knows a FUCK TON about what goes on here...
I'm sayin POLITELY that YOUR problem is on Discord.
Now the rest is Too long and no I didn't read it ALL because FRANKLY I do not need to.
This has been interesting and a good friend pointed this fiasco out to me. Seems very obvious, Anyone trying to manage STAKE, or busyness on HIVE through DISCORD...
IS THE PROBLEM!
And I might be seeing them in court in 2022... but who know? I JUST write Crappy Sci-Fi on the chain and I have my OWN BAND of Fucking Invisible Marauders who strike at my claims in the middle of the night!
Kind regards.
The problem was that as soon as LZ started posting screenshots we knew we cant trust him.
There are much bigger things happening, and only those in these discord groups know.
Would Master Chief openly tell his plans on a public forum that the Covenant is reading?
Why is my header image Master Chief? Why do I say I am a Reclaimer?
What does truthforce mean according to Gandhi?
Well, for the Record: I'm here on Barges thread because he makes a lot of ART I use in my book. And I'm clear on what LZ represents because Barge broke it down here on the thread. Hope you got a lot out of it too.
Sure.
But when a marine leaks anything to the Covenant...it jeopardizes everything.
I would be willing to tell you what I'm talking about through a DM on some other platform. Otherwise you wont have the context for the situation, publicly given info is missing more than half of the context.
Context
Facts
Logic
Roger roger
I sent a msg. U get it?
!GotIt
Only spammers or content thieves would have their posts removed from deepdives.blog. dome other TOS things that are essentially what hive.blog has.
LZ can post there if he doesnt spam or steal content. Only spam I've seen him do is tag spamming and im.not even really bothered by that. But if everyone starts tag spamming then the community would get pissed off if it wasnt dealt with. That specific thing I think needs to be closely looked at if it's really an issue or not.
Did this happened to LZ on DD?
He responded to what you said about spamming on IW:
He was booted from our discord for Informationwar.
That is not deepdives.blog which is what v4vapid is making.
....round'n'round'n'round....
....but the dancer's gotta keep dancin', coz if the Dance stops, EVERYTHING stops....innit!!
From the rant above:
Nope, you are the only person that I hold responsible for your disrespectful, dangerous, and dishonest actions.
What I read from TF in that quote was that he feels some responsibility for your actions by way of vouching for you and giving you access to certain places (and thus people.)
I think you misread the part where he says that you're causing conflict with him, me, and others to mean that conflict is between us - that's not what he meant. You are the one creating conflict with your sketchy attempts at dragging us into a flag war.
From TF's comment below:
Exactly.
Logiczombie is:
Creating conflict with others by messaging them, and so far has screenshotted what Kenny said without Kenny's consent. Violating privacy.
Creating conflict messaging multiple people in the IW discord, and then since LZ has already screenshotted and posted private conversations publicly it can be assumed he will do the same with the other people he is talking to.
Creating conflict personally with me, because I have to deal with the situation he created in our discord and had to apologize to multiple people. I elevated LZ's rank to a higher level than most people so he could participate in the downvote discussions, only for LZ to later start tag spamming people giving whales a target to downvote and taking what Kenny said and publicly posting it. That caused a stir with the other people who also privately messaged LZ, now we can't trust that our DMs will be kept private.
Making private things public has caused backlash for Kenny, and all of us in the IW have to assume our chat will be made public when LZ feels like torpedoing us. All in the name of his personal vendetta, of which we actually were previously upvoting so he wouldn't be censored.
I don't blame Kenny for anything, he doesn't blame me for anything. I blame myself for elevating LZ's rank because now it has caused massive amounts of drama, whethere he intended to or not.
Ultimately, through his own efforts, losing more and more allies with each day.
i disagree.
Well, LZ upvoted that comment so I guess they agree. Anyways, my comment just listed the facts of what happened in our discord. You were not there and did not see the chaos LZ caused.
I believe Discord to be the Chaos...
If you knew what I knew about data maps and machine learning with a high degree of predictive accuracy,
then you might believe the same.
Not defending LZ, because I don't believe it needs defending from something that has happened to me and continues to happen in general. Discord antics ... is sucking off Bezos.
I'm in HIVE for the Open Source... and nitwits jump behind curtains to fuck it all up again...
inho.
there is a war in cyberspace that too many muggs take personal and make THEIR business...
I try to MIND MY Business.
Regards!
For the record:
It's this shit I have a problem with.
Totally agreed. Which is why Deep Dives will be coming out soon thanks to v4vapid. A layer 2 token community
Wow! I am really involved? My attitude is different. I just have complained about why they downvoted my post without proper reason. What wrong did I do to do this to me? I am just a very simple and small person here who wants a peaceful life.
Always knew I'd be first in line for the "quarantine their thinking" camps. Believe the earth is "sort of a pear shape" or else! Much love!
We can debate over stale bread as to whether or not pear shape is the correct terminology since we are thinking outside of the preapproved narrative(s). I say that because we think the earth is mostly made up of water that it is tear drop shaped.
If it is tear dropped shaped, then we need to determine which direction it points. Gravitational law would suggest bulbous side down, but then again there is no gravity in space we're told.
I'm afraid this debate might take a while.
Debate is good, but not over stale bread - if that's all we have to eat, that means while we were debating, the enemy came and stole all our food. Doesn't matter who wins the debate when we're both dead from starvation.
That's what I call next level thinking 😉👍
5 outrages facts about the earth.
The earths shape is included in this video just scroll down and you will see the video.
Well you are saying about flat earth or another things.
Iam studyinf med in 5th year, and still some of my relatives think the covid_19 is a fake thing to make the economy bad😂
Well the economy absulotly got down but not because the virus is fake.
information?
Knowledge is aquired through lived experience. Knowledge comes from within.
that doesn't make the viruz any more real either. claim it exists or doesn't. cant prove it either way. Try to disprove santa clause existence to child who really believes in it?
it is not that difficult of the child knew how to apply logic and reason.
Very important facts:
The Pcr tests for covid are worthless to prove because they detect the wrong strings of dna. What IS detecting in these tests is genetic information that exists even in normal human cells. Its cycles are off the required limita to even detect the basic bacteria and viruses. It was set up that way to give false positives to have a high increase of "cases". Again, it was used to fulfill the nerrative they wanted to push.
The next fact is that it has never been isolated.
Isolation of any viruz is a mandatory step for any medical professional. Without that, a vaccine cant be produced for the treatment.
A vaccine is not a cure. A vaccine should contain a beaten up version of the viruz, but being how there is not a viruz that has been isolates to work on they couldn't get one made, so what donthey do instead? They change the definition of the vaccine, so that they can make one up using nothing but chemicals and metals which by design is made to alter the genetic code of the human sheep to become something weaker. weaker immunity. meaning more dependent on vaccines and artificial medicine and a shorter life span, if they can survive that is.
vaccines today are not really vaccines. It is a chemical soup meant to harm everyone. Even the ones that do not vax. Purposely. Vaccines in the past 2 years have killed more people than in the last 30 years before these new vaccines started combined. But its ok, you go ahead and mock the ones about claiming it a genocide jab as we clean up the enourmous piles of humans lying dead on the streets for taking this thing. including the poor chimdren who are innocent.
What is with that comment? Trying to insult? Troll?
That only works with people that do not have firm grounds to what they are saying and also, insulting is only done by thise who have a weak footing or grip on reality.
With your first comment, we logically thinking and rational thinking people can already deduct that your next move. which is shit flinging like a moronic baboon.
Shit flinging
Really, 5 years in medical school and you don't even bother to question the " official" narrative? Did they not teach you how to apply the scientific method or are they just telling you repeatedly to "believe the science"?
you see? Shit flinging gets us nowhere. You just get shit everywhere and leaves a mess. And it is dirty work cleaning it up.
your only making yourself look bad
Your correct here.
It went down. Not because a viruz is real or fake. but because of the scare and forcing push to shutdown because of private investors wanted to make a profit so they invested also in making this "pandemic" happen. Have you followed the paper trails yet buddy?
man! great reply!
!gif mic drop
https://rumble.com/vqkmzy-hive-blockchain-governance-and-tyranny....blurt-is-better..html
Via Tenor
Right, the economy was destroyed by organized crime syndicates forcibly shutting down most of the world's businesses, with the 2019-2020 flu season as their excuse.
TLDR;
Thanks for the tag... I guess?
What's the point of tagging people that have nothing to do with any of this? 90% of my notices are about this post.
I guess (:) that you're either following LZ or you upvoted this post when it first came out (back in the midst of time lol). As you may know, he's currently being zeroed out anywhere he sets foot on this chain and so one way of keeping folk in the LZ loop of current events on the blockchain seems to be editing an older post in order to add new info.
Hope this makes things a bit clearer. The updates have dates on them, most recent ones first (top of post).
There's an ideological CLASH taking place. It's the Macrocosm in our Microcosm (censorship of eg. pLandemic material which is spun as being 'for the good of everyone/Hive'). Even if these words be dramatic sounding, if you are personally uncomfy with the onward-march of the Control System in the world-at-large, well the same dynamics have their representation on this CHAIN and much may be at stake (pun ha ha :). We don't have to wade in with our opinions if we don't wish to, or if we fear reprisals etc, and totally fair enuff. One of the beauties of Hive is that all transactions are visible, it just takes time and some repetition for images to start appearing (puhlenty of echo-chambers too of course)...but in any case, I think we'd do well to be informed of the kind of shit that's taking place - the looming, ominous clouds; the clamouring for ORDER of a sinister and repressive nature; the axing and ostracising of voices (like our host, the OP :) who describe to the world what they see in visible short stories that purport to expose the hidden underbelly and thus raise the ire of the beast who WOULD NOT be challenged!
It's about that ragged ol' beggar called 'FREESPEECH'- always present in fore/background at some high level amongst all the drama.
I support voices that have the courage to speak Truth to whatever be the 'powers that be', real or metaphorical; HivePowered or whatever. These voices are usually the first to get shot down when ORDER begins to be imposed by those who think such is their 'duty', or who are brainwashed by this or that songOfEgo. If a concept is sound it'll stand up by itself. If one has ulterior motives governing action (conscious or not) then arguments using pseudo-logic to cover this fact and present this or that justification will simply not stand up. Thus there is a pattern that may be discerned whereby some of those proposing ORDER refuse (on key issues) to engage at an honest and intellectual level, for to do so would be to reveal the logical and (IMO) moral weakness of the position. Additionally, in order to strengthen the 'appearence' of the position which adhominems and generalisations are not strong enuff to defend, it is very useful to silence opposition and any other budding speakers of Truth to Power. Intimidation works well and there have been many 'examples' made of folk on Hive (many of them now left or just hovering in the b/g).
I hope I've laid it out well enough for you to decide for yourself whether it does or doesn't have anything to do with you.
🙏
Please remove my name from your list of mentions. Thanks!
Classic.
He's gonna be legendary, if the platform doesn't collapse for some reason.
Without anyx's infrastructure the platform is radically altered.
Abit saved the chain when 'somebody' powered down a negative amount of hp and locked the chain for a day.
He is a long term, high level contributor, though I guess he got paid really well early on for helping out when he was needed.
The markymark will require more specific evidence of abuse before his legendary abuse mitigation efforts will be tarnished in the broader abuse mitigation community.
He nipped much of the spam and farmers in the bud.
Pfunk has a long history of abuse mitigation.
He also contributed from early on.
You see the thanks he gets.
MaaS is a thankless task, kudos are in order for the above mentioned community members, at least in this aspect.
I have yet to see a flaggot that wasn't justified in some perspective, but I only have so much time in a day to keep up with what happens.
Keep coming with the facts.
When did those illustrated self votes stop?
Have they?
Kinda dents their argument if they haven't stopped.
Ganging up to increase rewards is real classy, iyam.
check out @phusionphil post and let me know if you think that should have been downvoted to 0(it's not now because a lot of people decided to make it positive)
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@phusionphil/a-gift-from-i-to-blurt-defi-101
I don't know well enough the context.
If Phil made statements against the hive, then those folks may still be miffed about it.
This is the crab bucket.
We have to fight for the rewards.
You can see my vote on it.
Glad I took a look around before answering.
I've watched the flags pretty close since I got blindsided by hw'ers, and so far I haven't seen anything totally egregious.
Folks get warnings and if they don't heed them, what do you want?
Games have rules.
Lol punk didn't even read the post.
The main context was to discuss the competitors services that compare to Hive Engine Tokens.
It's market research and if they don't want that on Hive... just lol
You're giving a group of ThUgs the benefit of "Ruler" Status simply because they were GIVEN a huge Chunk of POWER from unbalanced resources... So I, AS AN ACTUAL PERSON, would have to buy the crypto at Much Higher Prices and In Much HIGHER Quantities (pushing the price up for these thugs), just to balance out the Position.
I DON'T need to APPEAL to Their "Authority" especially since they just honeytrap your ISP info through their Discord Server.
HW is breaking laws too... IMHO, and I'm willing to take him all the way to the Mat over this issue.
HIVE!Regards
Power to the people!
It is what it is, we should've bought more when it was .15usd, they would have sold it to us.
We can't win by running away.
Who said I was RUNNING?
Kindly remove me from this post. 🐾
There simply isn't enough hours in a night. Day. Week. Month. LOL. You should have gone into writing books.
Again, I see what you are doing and I respect it as well as you. I recently had to engage and let my voice be heard as silence can be a killer. The situation has emerged to be a ugly one. both parties have valid points and are not able to see eye to eye because of posts like these where both parties are displaying ugly attitudes and no solutions to a situation that I think can be solved in a healthier way. ie proposals, olive branches and not constantly shoving ugly stuff in people's faces. Yes, morals and ethics are important and holding others accountable is key in a civilized society but so is healthy solutions. I do not think this post reflects a healthy solution or approach at this point. I would appreciate having the tags removed for this post for dynamicgreentk, dynamicsteemians and dynamichivers as I am looking forward to a new post from you that steers the conversation past highlighting ugly statements by all parties. I appreciate you and your hardwork. Keep up the good fight to be the change you wish to see in the world!
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I tried to google to see if there is a study on garlic and covid-19, or about geographic correlations of garlic consumption and covid-19 outbreaks. Although there was a research paper or two suggesting the possibility of a theoretical benefit, and general states who who grows/eats the most garlic, most of the search results ended up being fact checks addressing certain claims involving garlic and other remedies (i.e. take a hot bath/shower); that there is no scientific evidence. If it is relatively harmless and routine human behavior being advanced as prevention, why go through all the effort to pad the results with the factchecking bulls___ preventing useful results. I Wasn't going going through all the google results, and I stopped after the first few pages. If there was a study performed, I really don't want to go to page 99992336478367863 of results to find it. I can increase the garlic in my diet without needing to confirm my suspicions, and if I am wrong about my suspicion then at least I'll be healthier from other viruses, mold, parasites, and bacteria.
Ironically when I googled how to treat covid-19 at home, some of these remedies they poopooed are suggested on university sites to treat the symptoms. So even if it failed to prevent the disease, it might at least treat the symptoms early and maybe help prevent the spread.
It is very disturbing that @hivewatchers is seeking to ban anti-vax ideas. Perhaps they should elaborate on what they think is dangerous disinformation, before I go on a 1024kb dissertation in 64kb of space, they could offer a defense to their misconduct and delusions of law. There is a covid outbreak at one of my relatives' college-Everyone was required to get a vax. The state CDC guy says that vaccines are safe and effective, but we observe all these breakthrough cases. I spoke with her the other day, she too though she was safe because she was vaxxed-because that is the official narrative. I had to break it to her that in the time has elapsed her protection is down to 20%, and she needs to to take less risks and protect herself from propaganda.
There are immortality complexes on both sides, and I would suspect the record covid-19 outbreaks in states and countries with the highest vaxxed rate is because the fact checkers are have eschewed so much false confidence in the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine it has created an immortality complex on a great scale among the vaccinated who have nearly lost the state of having any immunity. Those who had immortality complexes on the anti-vax side, probably already got it by now. There are also real dangers with the covid-19 vaccine, and there is just reason for people to do their own risk assessment. It is reflecting upon these risks that is important to the calculus of risk aversion.
Some people and countries have used ivermectin, and there are mixed reports on it's effectiveness. The daily rates of new cases in India has dropped to 11k after using an ivermectin protocol, supposedly that protocol is either no longer in use. For most people the risk of ivermectin might be Headache, dizziness, muscle pain, nausea, and/or diarrhea-relatively mild compared to the claims about it. Even if the benefit of ivermectin is statistically insignificant, the placebo effect might prove beneficial and who are we to deny them of it or literature about it's effectiveness? Perhaps there is something else going on to explain this phenomena in India-maybe it is the weather, maybe it is poor testing capabilities. Maybe it is because China and India have high levels of garlic in their diet. Just a hypothesis; science. But without being to assert those ideas because they aren't yet proven means these ideas may never be tested at a clinical level-Why? Because it is banned as misinformation,disinformation, dangerous, etc, etc. But yet at the same time, there aren't studies to reject a hypothesis that Garlic may be within a toolkit of lesser treatment options for covid-19 treatment and prevention. In another words, those demanding facts are not only anti-science but really don't want to consider the possibility there may be better ideas. Like a change in protocol will cause a media fact checker to break out into an autistic tantrum, because the real facts may take the fact checker out of his safe space of obsessional ideas and into a realm of great Post traumatic embitterment stress disorder of discomfort and attacks on others.
Suppose we recommend Orange juice for Vit C, a bowl of cereal to help get zinc, milk to get vit D. All missinformation and dangerous because it hasn't been proven. What many factcheckers would call dangerous, describes the stereotypical breakfast of many ordinary Americans.
So please hivewatchers tell me what is your stance on downvoting people who are anti-vax? Is a common and stereotypical American breakfast too dangerous for hive? Too many carbs perhaps? Would you prefer Bacon and eggs on the menu, or would the cholesterol be too dangerous? Would you prefer it if we do what the WEF advises and eat the maggots to save the earth?
And finally, the freedom of speech includes the right to have and express the wrong idea. The one who is confused about the freedom of speech is you hivewatchers.
I love garlic.
same. It also has many medicinal properties, which can be convenient when the nearest pharmacy is 15+ minutes away. I used it for a tooth ache once; pain went away in about a minute.
I am trying to grow some in my garden next year. It is possible I waited to long to get the cloves in the ground; but it is more to see what I can grow. Probably just as well; so much Garlic comes from China these days.
Good.
I am happy you are who you are.
Thanks!
After reading a few of the comments here I would like to suggest alternatives or one anyway.
I love hive and so far have had no down vote issues. I have been eyeing the unstoppable domains project for about a year now. I wanted to be able to pay with earned crypto and not fedearal reserve notes so I have not bought my own domain yet. There is also the learning curve if you're not too tech savvy.
It is sad when one can not be true to oneself because someone else may take offense but we are a varried life. It would be dull if everyone was identical in every way. There would also be nothing to learn and therefore life would become stagnate.
I have $10,000 for the first witness to blacklist AZ and Curangel
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Lol I'm not going to pretend to understand your rant here. You're all over the place. However, I will agree that @logic is a gay robot and @guiltyparties is a self absorbed gypsy queen who has a thing for Ecuadorian scammers I mean seductors.
Hint: the thing is an erection, although be it a weak gypsy erection.
As usual, I don't get it. Why would downvotes affect top earners? Why don't they affect only the One receiving them...? I'm confused and give small probability that will be rectified.
The rewards from flags goes back to the pool which largely goes to the top earners.
I'd like to see the rewards removed by flags burned.
You put so many videos and pics in here it's impossible to read. It's as it was explained. You're always looking for some conspiracy but it's all very straight forward.
@logiczombie Igormuba is not really a free speech advocate. You may want to find a more competent witness for your list.
Look. I came here telling the truth about certain things and people freaked out and called me a “terorrist” and tried to chase me out. My very first interaction on steemit in 2017 was entering the palnet server after I was invited by one of the mods and I was immediately attacked and told I wasn’t welcome. That interaction morphed into my permanent ban (and aggroed won’t listen to any of his mods) on a false rape accusation by the very person who attacked me upon arrival. She admitted she never met me and that she lied and I am still banned. All the reasons they have given are moot as they are full of people who continually do much worse things than I ever did on a daily basis. THAT is a de facto ban based on politics. THAT is suppression of free speech. THAT is discrimination. THAT is an example of any excuse being good enough to give them the means to the end they seek which is exclusion and censorship. Have you ever been banned for lighthearted banter with a mod who also objected to the way you are treated?
That being said, what you are experiencing is actually quite fair. The gypsy queen has reversed his sugar daddy’s ban on you and what dumbass @logic does has no effect. Your beef with everyone else is just that. It’s the reality you made for yourself. Sometimes you need to realize that you go about things the wrong way even when you’re doing the right thing.
First impressions are everything. And you act like a self absorbed idiot.
The fact that there are accounts upvoting and downvoting each other, doesn't mean the blockchain isn't decentralized. Even if a post is downvoted to zero, the info is still preserved on the blockchain. Upvotes and downvotes are subjective, but the decentralized nature of Hive is crystal clear.
True, but the fact that 1 account has the stake to decide who all of the governing witnesses are, certainly does.
You can't be a top (consensus) witness without the vote from blocktrades - period. The top pretty much all vote for each other as well.
How many block producers does BTC Have? ETH? Monero? Komodo?
The entire fate of Hive is decided by (at most) less than two dozen folks.
You have a point here...
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Wow that was a longgg post. Long plus interesting . I stay out of the politics and just come here to be with friends. Anyway I'm back. Hope you and your family are keeping well. I didn't realise you were on Hive until I did a bit of digging. Good to see ya. Don't be a stranger.
An idea that might increase the effectiveness of this post you've got going...
Since you already have a bunch of posts up that can't be downvoted, you could make this front post you keep tagging people in more of just a few recent updates, with a bunch of links down below - and then for each topic you have a full post with your evidence, comments, replies, etc.
Use one as the updates & table of contents - then spread the rest out - so people aren't trying to read through a post that's gotta be close to the limit for a hive post, full of images, videos, etc.
Looks like I got dragged in anyway, lol.
I un-muted you days back.
Sadly this post does not load on my phone properly almost like it is being targeted with virus code
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Can you please stop tagging me @logiczombie ?
Thanks.
I actually don't know how to start replying, But why I'm I considered a Zombie follower?
God Bless Capitalism.
Just thought I would have a look whats goin on here.
I see you did a short post and you are a woman lol
That is really funny because your last reply got me thinking that I may know you in person. It was a bit of shock and my head began to spin, but the photo does not match. But then again.....
I just replied to you at the other place
I need a new Pub...
last one burnt down...
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Please stop tagging me, thanks.
Hi! @logiczombie I'm one of the people who doesn't have an account on blurt yet. But would love to! No rush though, I just wanted to leave a comment as instructed. Thank you!
@logiczombie hey, friend ¿Can you remove me from your list, please?